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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 05/Jun/2007 at 10:24pm
unless u have a RICH father in law!
 
Why do you think I was after Aishwarya Rai all these years?
 
But now I guess I need to switch to Plan B.
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Quote BubbleVision Replybullet Posted: 05/Jun/2007 at 10:39pm
I missed some extremly good discussion during the day on the TED.
 
Kudos to BasantJi for again updating RJ portfolio.
 
BTW, someone wanted to know that RJ leverages or not....
 
According to what I have heard from one member of TED...He leverages and leverages big time!!!
 
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Quote BubbleVision Replybullet Posted: 05/Jun/2007 at 10:43pm
Originally posted by deveshkayal

RJ also said Dont be afraid to make a mistake.Book losses and get out unless u have a RICH father in law!
 
Loss booking extremly vital Devesh.....and If one does'nt learn it, he will die poor!
 
I have seen more investors die in the market than traders.
 
Some Traders die taking multiple small losses...While many investors die taking a one time account wipeout.
 
I will post something from Livermore's book on this on the weekend.
 
 
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Quote Mr. V Replybullet Posted: 05/Jun/2007 at 11:11pm
Originally posted by basant

Originally posted by Mr. V

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One of the smartest investors in India believes in the benefits of portfolio concentration. His top 5 holdings account for 63.26% of his portfolio and his top 10 holdings account for almost 83.23% of his portfolio.
Originally posted by basant

The wonderful thing with RJ is not that he does not go wrong but he goes wrong and messes up in companies that make no difference to his portfolio. For example he messed up in TV today and Midday but see these stocks have had no effect on his portfolio.
 
Since RJ's top 10 holding constitute 80%+ of his portfolio, why does he bother with miniscule holdings in the other stocks as it wouldn't really make any big difference to his overall portfolio.
 
Does he invest in these companies to keep them in his radar and then increase his holdings as they start performing or sell them off (TV Today & Midday) if it turns out to be a mistake ?
 
If that's the case then what kind of time horizon does he usually hold on to the duds ?
 
Actually he would have started with almost equal money upfront. Say Rs 30 crores in Tv Today and Rs 30 crores in Praj!
 
Now he went right on Praj but did not switch his winning position (Praj) into his losing position say Tv Today that is what created the difference.
 
So it is a question of letting the profits run!!!
 
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 05/Jun/2007 at 12:40pm
Bubble, its all about discpline.......be it trading/investing.....one should have no sympathies for a person who has been a loser thanks to his indiscipline. This market will always down hard who live in the world of illusions.......who are dogmatic in their approach..... who have pre-conceived notions......and people who use the word dislike more often than like.....
 
coming to booking losses.....I have just the opposite view.....if you located value in your initial purchse and even then if the price comes down from there, buddy, for me its time to do some rupee cost averaging.....however, tremedous discipline must be there while you zero in on a particular stock at the first purchase. Bubble,I  have always wished my stocks to fall down very heavily, its the way I approach my work...... however, I am totally in sysnc with you that if the stock falls on any of the various crteria you have enlisted for yourself, the exit must be very brutal. For me , a hindalco became a sell immediatel it cut its dividend....a hero honda is also a sell for me now because of the same reason.I beleive one must be stubborn with matters to discipline....
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Quote investor Replybullet Posted: 05/Jun/2007 at 10:06am
How did he manage to do this? I dont beleive that it was all due to excellent
timing calls. That is very hard to beleive, for someone of his stature, surely
he could've had inside information. Because to come out of these 2 scams unhurt is really lucky.

Originally posted by basant

Basically he came out unhurt both in 1992 (Harshad Mehta) and in 2000 (ketan pareikh).

The market is a place where people with money meet people with experience.
The people with experience get the money while people with money get experience!
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 05/Jun/2007 at 10:28am
In hindsight it does not look that tough.We traded at a PE of 55 times in 1992 and technology stocks were at  aPE of 100+ in 2000! Just that emotions gets the better of most investor's reasoning ability.
 
Also as investors we are too fearful to sell stocks that are going up 10% each day while becoming overvalued but some hard decisions ensure that we never see harder times.!
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 06/Jun/2007 at 12:11pm
technology stocks were at  aPE of 100+ in 2000
 
And now, most of the real estate stocks are trading at PE of 100. Land Bank Zindabad.
 
hmm.. RJ is not into real estate companies either.
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