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Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 26/Jul/2011 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by tejas.k

thanks hit ji. makes sense.however if you look at the sector (fertilizers and stuff), the P/E is very low. even cormandal international is at 13..  i would love to hear you views on this. because they say, sectoral p/e is also very important.  i am not an expert like you. so i want to know you your views. in fact i have the same concern with vst tillers. (although in a different sector)


PI Inds is very far away from fertiliser sector. To begin with there is no govt regulatory control in the space in which PI operates. The closest similarity in Indian markets I found for PI is Divi's labs(esp for the custom synthesis business which is going to be the growth and margin driver for PI ). You can compare valuations with Divi's labs if at all you want to compare. If I recall correctly Divis trades at 25 times trailing earnings.

PI is a company with two main divisions -- agrichem and custom synthesis. To understand the things with a better perspective you can go through the Annual Reports available at company website or on bse. I have a physical copy and just a few days back went through and the management has done a great job of explaining their business and prospects of both businesses they operate in.

Stockmarket is a weird place. For every person who buys a stock there is a person who sells it and both think they are very smart.
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Quote bobdylan Replybullet Posted: 26/Jul/2011 at 7:30am
Dear Hitji,
maybe rallis,bayer, dhanuka could be peers in the agrichem space.Went thru the quarterly results.There is a large increase in stocks/inventory.A large increase in the inventory in the march quarter was countered by the management that they were stocking up before the may season .Would they have to take more debt to complete their new plant.The free cash flows would be really  kicking in only in FY13,if everything goes well and the plant is operational.Is there anyway to know if they have resolved their working capital issues.In the agrichem space do they have some standout products or will the CRAMS business be the future.
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Quote shadows Replybullet Posted: 26/Jul/2011 at 8:03am
hitbhai PI Industries on 23/4/2011 has made allotment of 3,11,658 equity shares of Rs 10 each to Standard Chartered Private Equity(Mauritius)and Standard Chartered Private Equity(Mauritius)II upon conversion of 8,10,000 compulsorely convertible preference shares of Rs 100 each held by them."

what does this mean at 100 rs.? is this has anything to do with cmp@930+

thanks

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Quote Jaishrikrishna Replybullet Posted: 26/Jul/2011 at 8:26am
Everybody needs ready made answers,though Hit bhai will give you that, but still if one really needs to build his conviction, I would humbly request to kindly go through the Annual report and Management Concall, There all your queries will be answered.

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Quote manishdave Replybullet Posted: 26/Jul/2011 at 9:50am
PI Industries on fire!! 
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Quote shadows Replybullet Posted: 26/Jul/2011 at 10:07am
managed to buy some at upper circuit besides few at 900.

august 19 record date for stock split
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Quote bitu1978 Replybullet Posted: 27/Jul/2011 at 3:21pm
Another Hit from Hiteshbhai
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Quote ali1 Replybullet Posted: 27/Jul/2011 at 5:17pm
this is first time that any share i hold hit upper circuit. there may be 2 or 3 baggers but 20% in a day  is wonderful.
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