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prabhakarkudva
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You'll be much happier and much richer and importantly much healthier(since you'll sleep well) if you buy TED XI stocks than the ones you already hold.Take a 2-3 year view and keep looking for stocks(every 2 years) than can easily grow at 30% or thereabout rates.Most TED XI stocks have tailwinds in their favour and have good managements so there is no need to look for businesses that are struggling to grow even when our GDP is growing at 8-9%.
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excel_monkey
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I think TED stocks are great
the best businesses
the best returns etc
but if say one has a portfolio of 10 lacs and even if TED stocks appreciate 5 times in 10 years that would not make one rich (though returns are good)
TED stocks are more suitable for people who are interested in capital preservation with fairly decent returns
where as a small player who has only 10 lacs in the market would like to be big first before following TED strategy
for them the risk of loosing this small sum is fine but they want big returns
Originally posted by prabhakarkudva
You'll be much happier and much richer and importantly much healthier(since you'll sleep well) if you buy TED XI stocks than the ones you already hold.Take a 2-3 year view and keep looking for stocks(every 2 years) than can easily grow at 30% or thereabout rates.Most TED XI stocks have tailwinds in their favour and have good managements so there is no need to look for businesses that are struggling to grow even when our GDP is growing at 8-9%. |
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jaximus
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Originally posted by excel_monkey
I think TED stocks are great
the best businesses
the best returns etc
but if say one has a portfolio of 10 lacs and even if TED stocks appreciate 5 times in 10 years that would not make one rich (though returns are good)
TED stocks are more suitable for people who are interested in capital preservation with fairly decent returns
where as a small player who has only 10 lacs in the market would like to be big first before following TED strategy
for them the risk of loosing this small sum is fine but they want big returns
Originally posted by prabhakarkudva
You'll be much happier and much richer and importantly much healthier(since you'll sleep well) if you buy TED XI stocks than the ones you already hold.Take a 2-3 year view and keep looking for stocks(every 2 years) than can easily grow at 30% or thereabout rates.Most TED XI stocks have tailwinds in their favour and have good managements so there is no need to look for businesses that are struggling to grow even when our GDP is growing at 8-9%. |
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Thank you Excelji and Prabhakarji.
Excelji, you hit the nail on the head - This is really my point - the amount of capital I bring to the table is small, I don't want to trade on a daily basis, since I am a professional with a decently paying full time job(which I am more proficient at than I am at trading).
I want to take a portion of my networth, say 1/3 and bet on high risk/reward growth stocks. I have been following some of the TED stocks for a while - but only now have money to invest ;) (yes I spent a lot of time picking up degrees and haven't been working that long). I don't think most of them will give me the kind of outsize returns that I want from equity investments. I intend to put another 1/3rd into good MFs like HDFC Top 200 etc. through an SIP.
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prabhakarkudva
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Excelji,
10 lakhs is not a small sum according to me. If you can grow 10 lakhs at 30% for 20 years you'll have about 7 crores in today's terms (adjusted for inflation).I am 25 and with time on my side i'd rather harness the power of compounding than go for the jugular.I don't know about others but i'd rather grow the 10 lakhs at 30% than try to achieve 50% and increase the possibility of perishing.Also one cant become big and then follow sound investment policy.It should be the other way round.
Jack,
By investing 1/3 in high risk stocks and 1/3 in an index type MF your final result is going to be same as if you invest in TED's 30-35% growers assuming your high risk stocks pay off.If they don't you'll do worse.Since you are new to the markets i'd suggest you invest in good businesses with good management,grow your capital a decent pace and read up on investment before chasing outsized returns.
We should not try to drive a F1 car while we are just trying to obtain our driving license.  If after you are a great driver there is no need to drive an F1 car for that matter.
Just my thoughts.
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excel_monkey
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prabhakar ji
unfortunately the time is not on my side
as well look at the real inflation
some 20 years from now probably with that 7 crore would be able to buy a 1 bed room flat in some distant suburb of Mumbai
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prabhakarkudva
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The figure is adjusted for an average inflation of 7%.In absolute terms it will grow to about 20 crores.
Also investing wont end after 20 years you can keep compounding it even further and benefits will be exponential.The tough part is not to disturb the compounding by trying to be too aggressive and incurring permanent loss of capital.
Edited by prabhakarkudva - 02/Jan/2011 at 9:58pm
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subu76
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Originally posted by excel_monkey
unfortunately the time is not on my side
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Excel Bhai...please do not let this thought get to your head (atleast the part you use for investing)...at all costs.
Like it or not......making money in the stock market is a slow process..no shortcuts here...
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subu76
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Originally posted by jaximus
Thanks for all your comments - My risk appetite is reasonably high (I'm 29 with no dependents). I would like to pick stocks that have great growth potential rather than steady dividend generators.
The TED XI stocks look great, but I do wonder if buying them at this stage makes sense for me - are there any that you would recommend?
Since I last posted, I also picked up OnMobile Global @288. Checking out Marg Ltd. at @150 odd - any thoughts?
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Since you're new to the stock market I'd advice that you look at yourself as someone who's learning.....
Since you talked about risk...do remember that the shareholder faces 2 sorts of risks
1. Market Risks (Read price fluctuations)
2. Business Risk (Read change in business fundamentals)
While every one you meet in office probabily worries about 1 it's 2 that's most important.
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