Jack's Portfolio
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Category: Market Strategies
Forum Name: Portfolio Check Up
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Printed Date: 03/May/2025 at 6:12am
Topic: Jack's Portfolio
Posted By: jaximus
Subject: Jack's Portfolio
Date Posted: 28/Dec/2010 at 1:40pm
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Hi all!
I am making my first few tentative steps into the capital markets. Been reading up a lot and and following the forum obsessively. My horizon is >6months and plan to hold good value stocks really long term(4-5 years). Have made a few not so great calls. And the bear IPO season didn't help either. Everything below was bought in the last few weeks. Would love to know what folks think about the list below. Appreciate any comments in advance! Best, Jack Religare Enterprises 19% @491 A2Z Maintenance 28% @351 3i Infotech 11% @57 Jocil 20% @340 Claris Lifesciences 9% @228 Shipping Corporation of India 13% @133 |
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Posted By: tigershark
Date Posted: 28/Dec/2010 at 2:37pm
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none of the above businesses appear to be long term wealth creators.share prices moving up or down is a totally different thing.
------------- understanding both the power of compound return and the difficulty getting it is the heart and soul of understanding a lot of things |
Posted By: jaximus
Date Posted: 28/Dec/2010 at 2:42pm
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Thanks for the comment Tiger bhai. The last few weeks have been a random bunch of bets.
However, on 3i Infotech - from what I know about the industry, payment systems will see a big boom in the next few years as domestic mobile and remittance systems become more widespread(helped by UID and other changes). 3i has some good tech on this end and I hope that the share price will reflect that. Anyway - do recommend reasonably priced long term picks, if you have any in mind. Thanks! J |
Posted By: ambore
Date Posted: 28/Dec/2010 at 4:17pm
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Sharing some of the good stocks in my past and present portfolios - ril, kotak, areva, kei, havells, indusind, navneet, nilkamal and polymed. Probably you can also look at - yes bank, titan, page, hawkins, vip and opto circuits that I think many of the TEDs own. Please use your own judgement while investing in the market, after all profit or loss is only yours. ------------- Ramana Rao Ambore |
Posted By: jaximus
Date Posted: 28/Dec/2010 at 4:22pm
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Thanks Ramanaji!
Would love to get TEDies thoughts on this (and it might sound like a silly question)- How advisable is it to take long bets on reasonably well run(non-shady) companies in high growth sectors without getting too technical in the analysis? J |
Posted By: bitu1978
Date Posted: 28/Dec/2010 at 9:18pm
Like the saying goes "when in Rome Do as the Romans do" so why not Include few Stocks from TED XI to maintain the solidity in your Portfolio? |
Posted By: vaib
Date Posted: 28/Dec/2010 at 10:22pm
| Own some solid business with established market and good prospects. Look at d/e, roe, cash flow, div yield and decide. All your stock look very new and unproven. Take your own decision. |
Posted By: jaximus
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 7:59pm
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Thanks for all your comments - My risk appetite is reasonably high (I'm 29 with no dependents). I would like to pick stocks that have great growth potential rather than steady dividend generators.
The TED XI stocks look great, but I do wonder if buying them at this stage makes sense for me - are there any that you would recommend? Since I last posted, I also picked up OnMobile Global @288. Checking out Marg Ltd. at @150 odd - any thoughts? JR |
Posted By: prabhakarkudva
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 8:08pm
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You'll be much happier and much richer and importantly much healthier(since you'll sleep well) if you buy TED XI stocks than the ones you already hold.Take a 2-3 year view and keep looking for stocks(every 2 years) than can easily grow at 30% or thereabout rates.Most TED XI stocks have tailwinds in their favour and have good managements so there is no need to look for businesses that are struggling to grow even when our GDP is growing at 8-9%. ------------- Take your chances and keep them in a box until a quieter time. |
Posted By: excel_monkey
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 8:30pm
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I think TED stocks are great
the best businesses the best returns etc but if say one has a portfolio of 10 lacs and even if TED stocks appreciate 5 times in 10 years that would not make one rich (though returns are good) TED stocks are more suitable for people who are interested in capital preservation with fairly decent returns where as a small player who has only 10 lacs in the market would like to be big first before following TED strategy for them the risk of loosing this small sum is fine but they want big returns
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Posted By: jaximus
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 8:42pm
Thank you Excelji and Prabhakarji. Excelji, you hit the nail on the head - This is really my point - the amount of capital I bring to the table is small, I don't want to trade on a daily basis, since I am a professional with a decently paying full time job(which I am more proficient at than I am at trading). I want to take a portion of my networth, say 1/3 and bet on high risk/reward growth stocks. I have been following some of the TED stocks for a while - but only now have money to invest ;) (yes I spent a lot of time picking up degrees and haven't been working that long). I don't think most of them will give me the kind of outsize returns that I want from equity investments. I intend to put another 1/3rd into good MFs like HDFC Top 200 etc. through an SIP. |
Posted By: prabhakarkudva
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 9:26pm
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Excelji,
10 lakhs is not a small sum according to me. If you can grow 10 lakhs at 30% for 20 years you'll have about 7 crores in today's terms (adjusted for inflation).I am 25 and with time on my side i'd rather harness the power of compounding than go for the jugular.I don't know about others but i'd rather grow the 10 lakhs at 30% than try to achieve 50% and increase the possibility of perishing.Also one cant become big and then follow sound investment policy.It should be the other way round. Jack, By investing 1/3 in high risk stocks and 1/3 in an index type MF your final result is going to be same as if you invest in TED's 30-35% growers assuming your high risk stocks pay off.If they don't you'll do worse.Since you are new to the markets i'd suggest you invest in good businesses with good management,grow your capital a decent pace and read up on investment before chasing outsized returns. We should not try to drive a F1 car while we are just trying to obtain our driving license.  If after you are a great driver there is no need to drive an F1 car for that matter.
Just my thoughts. ------------- Take your chances and keep them in a box until a quieter time. |
Posted By: excel_monkey
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 9:39pm
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prabhakar ji
unfortunately the time is not on my side as well look at the real inflation some 20 years from now probably with that 7 crore would be able to buy a 1 bed room flat in some distant suburb of Mumbai |
Posted By: prabhakarkudva
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 9:56pm
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The figure is adjusted for an average inflation of 7%.In absolute terms it will grow to about 20 crores.
Also investing wont end after 20 years you can keep compounding it even further and benefits will be exponential.The tough part is not to disturb the compounding by trying to be too aggressive and incurring permanent loss of capital. ------------- Take your chances and keep them in a box until a quieter time. |
Posted By: subu76
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 10:22pm
Excel Bhai...please do not let this thought get to your head (atleast the part you use for investing)...at all costs.
Like it or not......making money in the stock market is a slow process..no shortcuts here...
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Posted By: subu76
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 10:29pm
Since you're new to the stock market I'd advice that you look at yourself as someone who's learning.....
Since you talked about risk...do remember that the shareholder faces 2 sorts of risks
1. Market Risks (Read price fluctuations)
2. Business Risk (Read change in business fundamentals)
While every one you meet in office probabily worries about 1 it's 2 that's most important.
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Posted By: jaximus
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 10:36pm
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Thank you Subuji - definitely do consider myself a learner on the stock market. And appreciate the advice.
I have some experience with early stage venture investing(not public equities though) and have decent sense of some sectors, historical trends and business risks. I quite enjoy the threads on TED where members look at a business in its entirety and discuss opportunities and risks. |
Posted By: excel_monkey
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 10:39pm
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Subu ji
I understand one would get tons and tons of chocolate when one has no teeth left to eat it 
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Posted By: prabhakarkudva
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 10:52pm
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Atleast your kids and grandkids will get to eat the chocolates What subuji mentioned was said even more dramatically the master himself:
"You Can't Make A Baby In A Month By Getting 9 Women Pregnant." ------------- Take your chances and keep them in a box until a quieter time. |
Posted By: excel_monkey
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 10:57pm
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Posted By: jaximus
Date Posted: 02/Jan/2011 at 11:37pm
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I am trying to apply what I know - but to be honest, I don't get public markets, a scary level of buying and selling, venture plays are a lot longer term. Hence the apprehension. Also humbly welcome any advice from the pros here. |
Posted By: jaximus
Date Posted: 03/Jan/2011 at 6:52pm
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Added
Yes Bank @ 315.6 Voltamp @ 769.00 Aban Offshore @ 820 |
Posted By: bitu1978
Date Posted: 03/Jan/2011 at 8:34pm
It would be great even if this can be Achieved .anybody doing 30% Compounding 20 years will Join legends Like Sir Buffet and Lynch |
Posted By: prabhakarkudva
Date Posted: 03/Jan/2011 at 7:49am
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They were operating in a manufacturing economy and we are in a services economy where absolute numbers are higher.The tough part is consistency. ------------- Take your chances and keep them in a box until a quieter time. |
Posted By: Kautilya
Date Posted: 03/Jan/2011 at 9:09am
If not 30% I believe 20% is very much possible for retail investors. The tough part is not stock picking (one can just coattail ideas from TED) but discipline (to not trade unnecessarily) and patience (to hold on for a long term, since the businesses we have choosen to own is also going to last for a long time) which can ensure you don't loose your position.
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