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    Posted: 11/Jul/2007 at 9:59am
Basantji,

Considering that IT returns filing deadline is approaching, everyone will
be having a lot of doubts/issues on the new forms(why have they unnecessarily made it so complex?), so i think it would be a good idea to start a new thread for discussing tax issues, etc

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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 11/Jul/2007 at 10:18am
Unfortunately I am no tax expert but surely with so many software profs here we should try and see if someof our CA's on this forum can lend a helping hand. Devesh being a CA Inter candidate could lead from the front as he always does.
 
 
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Quote investor Replybullet Posted: 11/Jul/2007 at 10:28am
The way they have structured the ITR-2 forms, a ordinary guy cannot fill up on his own, because in a lot of places there is reference to "Sections" defined
in the IT act, which we have no clue about, and only CA's would know.

For example, my main confusion is in "Schedule CG" for entering our
short term capital gains information.

Section 5 under Schedule CG says "Short term capital gain under section 111A" while Section 6 under Schedule CG says "Short term capital gain other than referred to in section 111A"

Now i have no clue what this section 111A is all about and under what column to enter my short term capital gains.

The Finance ministry has really made it cumbersome by introducing these
new forms this year!! AngryAngryAngryAngry

Originally posted by basant

Unfortunately I am no tax expert but surely with so many software profs here we should try and see if someof our CA's on this forum can lend a helping hand. Devesh being a CA Inter candidate could lead from the front as he always does.
 
 
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Quote deveshkayal Replybullet Posted: 11/Jul/2007 at 11:21am
I am not competent enough to advice on IT..I think a practising CA would be the best person to consult..
 
Praveen ji can pitch in here..
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Quote praveenmbd Replybullet Posted: 12/Jul/2007 at 3:11pm
Section 111A deals with short term capital gain on sale of shares through stock exchange on which 10% tax is payable. For your reference excerpts of section 111 A are given below:
 
Tax on short term capital gains in certain cases.

111A. (1) Where the total income of an assessee includes any income chargeable under the head Capital gains, arising from the transfer of a short-term capital asset, being an equity share in a company or a unit of an equity oriented fund and

(a) the transaction of sale of such equity share or unit is entered into on or after the date on which Chapter VII of the Finance (No. 2) Act, 2004 comes into force; and

(b) such transaction is chargeable to securities transaction tax under that Chapter,

the tax payable by the assessee on the total income shall be the aggregate of

(i) the amount of income-tax calculated on such short-term capital gains at the rate of ten per cent; and

(ii) the amount of income-tax payable on the balance amount of the total income as if such balance amount were the total income of the assessee:

Provided that in the case of an individual or a Hindu undivided family, being a resident, where the total income as reduced by such short-term capital gains is below the maximum amount which is not chargeable to income-tax, then, such short-term capital gains shall be reduced by the amount by which the total income as so reduced falls short of the maximum amount which is not chargeable to income-tax and the tax on the balance of such short-term capital gains shall be computed at the rate of ten per cent.

(2) Where the gross total income of an assessee includes any short term capital gains referred to in sub-section (1), the deduction under Chapter VI-A shall be allowed from the gross total income as reduced by such capital gains.

Explanation.For the purposes of this section, the expression equity oriented fund shall have the meaning assigned to it in the Explanation to clause (38) of section 10]

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Quote kishanpv Replybullet Posted: 12/Jul/2007 at 3:51pm
Tks Praveenji but one request it might be very useful if u can translate it to plain english with some examples. This will be of great help.
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Quote praveenmbd Replybullet Posted: 12/Jul/2007 at 4:22pm
Under section 111 A, 10% tax is charged on short term captal gain on sale of shares through stock exchanges.
 
If total income excluding such short term capital gain as stated above, is less than Rs 100000 for the financial year 2006-07 in case of individual male, tax on short term capital gain as stated above shall be reduced on the amount by which total income excluding short term capital gain is less than Rs 100000.
 
Deductions under chapter VI A will not be given on short term capital gain as stated above.(i.e. deduction u/s 80 C etc.)
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 12/Jul/2007 at 4:52pm
Good job Praveenji. You are being a great help to our techies who need this information very dearly.

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