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Rakesh Jhunjhunwala's Portfolio-September

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Topic: Rakesh Jhunjhunwala's Portfolio-September
Posted By: basant
Subject: Rakesh Jhunjhunwala's Portfolio-September
Date Posted: 16/Dec/2006 at 9:21am

       http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=806 - For the latest portfolio click on this link

 
               Rakesh Jhunjhunwala's Portfolio                                      

                                                                                                                                            

Company                                               Qty as on              Price    Value      Portfolio

                                                      June’06      Sep 06               (Rs crore)     weight

NAGARJUNA CONSTRUCTION           14750000      13750000     209    287.38       18.63

LUPIN                                              3447000       3286936       571    187.68       12.17

TITAN INDUSTRIES                          2471062       2178562       759    165.35       10.72

PRAJ INDUSTRIES                           9000312       9000312       178    160.21       10.39

CRISIL                                            550000         550000       2173    119.52      7.75

PUNJ LOYD                                      1008000       1008000      1010    101.81      6.60

BILCARE                                         1650000       1650000        609    100.49      6.51

PANTALOON RETAIL                       2280895       2280895        440    100.36      6.51

GEOJIT FINANCE                              20000000      20000000       33      65.20      4.23

KARUR VYSYA BANK                      1754002       1754002        287     50.34      3.26

MATRIX LABS                                 1875000       1580750        274     43.33      2.81

VICEROY HOTELS                            3250000       3250000          91     29.58      1.92

GEOMETRIC SOFTWARE                  2550000       2488983        113     28.13      1.82

PROVOGUE                                      480000         480000         406     19.49      1.26

INFOMEDIA INDIA                           1460538       1256062       152     19.09      1.24

HINDUSTAN OIL EXPLORATION       850000         1493976         91     13.60       0.88

MID-DAY MULTIMEDIA                   2250000       2250000         51     11.48       0.74

JB CHEMICALS AND PHARMA         1458463       1155150         91     10.51       0.68

TV TODAY                                       1438512       1288512         71      9.15        0.59

AGROTECH FOODS                          1051200       1051200          85      8.94        0.58

ZENOTECH LABS                              205578         756614           71      5.37        0.35

RAMCO SYSTEMS                           336830         154755          185     2.86        0.19

ALPHAGEO                                                          77000           150     1.16        0.07

Panama Petrochem Ltd                                     73008           124     0.91        0.06

VADILAL INDUSTRIES                     400000         205578            36    0.74         0.05

                                                                                                                                            

                                                                                                                                            

TOTAL VALUE OF PORTFOLIO (Rs crores)                                                   1542.64              



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Colors in blue represent stocks where holdings have gone up and in red represent stocks where holdings have gone down.

  Piquant Observations:

  • One of the smartest investors in India believes in the http://www.theequitydesk.com/diversification.asp - . His top 5 holdings account for 59.65% of his portfolio and his top 10 holdings account for almost 86.76% of his portfolio.
  • It is very hard to find a cyclical or commodity stocks in his portfolio.
  • As per latest information available he has significantly reduced his holding in almost all the companies. Maybe the crash in July and its afteraffects was a reason for such reduction. There were also rumours that Rakesh Jhunjhunwala was adversely affected by the crash in June.
  •  For the June 06 to September 06 period his holdings has increased in Hindustan Oil and Exploration while as indicated above all the other stocks have seen some major selling. Nagarjuna Construction has seen a major draw up in the portfolio allocation. It reflects about 18% of his disclosed holdings as on date.
  • Unlike the general investor none of these stocks are large caps in the true sense of the definition. Of Course he could be holding future positions in large caps but the point that I am trying to make is money is made in small and mid caps only. The notional losses that an investor can suffer are also the highest in these stocks. It is very important for an investor not to convert these notional losses in actual losses by selling the shares in despair.
  • Most of these stocks are being held for over 3 years. Companies like Titan, Pantaloon Retail fall in that category. Others like Crisil are being held for more then 5 years and some for even as long as 10 years. – Clearly Time and not timing is the key to these markets.
  • Almost all these companies are looking at a huge external scale of opportunity whether it is a Titan or a Pantaloon or a Nagarjuna Construction or Lupin the sheer size of the addressable market is humongous. – Morale of the story “See the Bigger Picture”.
  • Rakesh has a special corner for companies that are engaged in consumer, infrastructure and pharmaceutical space. Otherwise he is betting on rising crude prices by buying stocks like Hindustan oil exploration and Praj Industries. The overall portfolio is well diversified except that he is not holding any metal or cyclical stocks.
  • These shares are held by Rakesh and his wife Rekha Jhunjhunwala and form a part of his disclosed portfolio. He could be holding more shares through companies, trusts, proprietary accounts which are not in the public domain.
  • To read more about Rakesh Jhunjhunwala see the section http://www.theequitydesk.com/globe_troting_macro_players.asp%5dWorlds%20greatest%20Investors%5b/URL%5d - http://www.theequitydesk.com/globe_troting_macro_players.asp -


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Replies:
Posted By: ashwin.adsouza
Date Posted: 16/Dec/2006 at 10:15am

Rakesh seems to have more than tripled his investment in Zenotech Labs. Current holding is given below(source - from BSE website):

Sr. No. Name of the shareholder No. of shares Shares as a % of total number of shares
1  Rakesh Jhunjhunwala 756614  2.63 
2  Ranbaxy Laboratories Ltd 2000000  6.94
 
Not so sure if his previous quarter holding was 200K shares.
 
Can someone confirm this?
 
Also in other news Ranbaxy has teamed up with zenotech for Biotech range of products. Seems they have taken stake also in this company.


Posted By: Kalyan
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2006 at 4:21pm

Ashwin

u are right firstly RJ  is holding 4% later on QoQ he has sold .After Ranbaxy subscribed to pref .allotment @Rs 100 he has esclated his holding as in Praj after Vinod Khosla made investment @Rs 124 per share he bought 500000 shares.



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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2006 at 6:00pm
Under INFOMEDIA, his holding is down 14% due to share buy back from the company.
 
 


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Posted By: Ajith
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2006 at 10:39pm

The most notable feature of RJ"s portfolio is the extremely low churning.In this he is like Warren Buffet and Bill Miller who has beaten the S&P for 15 years with a low churn rate.



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Ajith


Posted By: xbox
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2006 at 4:50am
RJ is grossly underweight on financial sector. He will not get time to regret  once he realize it.
He is building on legacy. I don't see any convincing new ideas.
I know ppl will criticize me for my odd comment but he badly need new idea.


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Posted By: Ajith
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2006 at 7:18am
Exactly right.There are no signicant new ideas or themes.There is great conviction ,an abscence of frenzied greed just like Warren Buffet. I cannot but appreciate his strategy-so different.

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Ajith


Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2006 at 9:20am
As per latest information available he has significantly reduced his holding in almost all the companies. Maybe the crash in July and its afteraffects was a reason for such reduction. There were also rumours that Rakesh Jhunjhunwala was adversely affected by the crash in June.
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Or maybe, he also(like so many ordinary retail investors) believes in the
concept of partial profit booking!

BTW Basant, just out of curiosity, how do you get hold of his portfolio
details every quarter?


Posted By: prosperity
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2006 at 9:22am
I differ.
 
Many times sticking to old ideas gives much higher profits than scouting/getting into new ideas


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2006 at 10:17am
I am in the camp of "prosperity". Lynch says that the best stock to buy could be the one you are actually owing.
 
Investor: This is all public information courtsey first google then exchange sites.


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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2006 at 11:24am
Yes, even i agree with prosperity and Basant.

Even in the new year show on CNBC this year, RJ when asked for his picks
said "the best stocks are the one you already hold, just hold on to them"



Posted By: Ajith
Date Posted: 18/Dec/2006 at 1:15pm
To look for" new ideas" as Bill Miller does as described in Nov 15 Fortune would be fascinating but then he has the likes of Rober Hagstrom('the Warren Buffet Way")to help him out.

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Ajith


Posted By: tusharutuja
Date Posted: 18/Dec/2006 at 1:46pm
basantji,
i read a book on tax saving which states that its always better for HNIs to hold stocks and such assets through holding companies rather than as individuals...So if that's the case, then wouldn't RJ be doing the same thing? So the real possessions of RJ are probably out of public domain?? OR am i missing out something here....


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 18/Dec/2006 at 1:53pm
Nothimg that I am aware of but this is substantial 1500 crores maybe he is worth half a billion dollars in all - that is my take.

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Posted By: s_praharaj
Date Posted: 18/Dec/2006 at 9:41pm
 There are many stocks in RJ's portfoio in which he has booked partial profit. I feel this is also a good strategy in which you also reduce your risk and you have enough liquidity at the same time for trying your ideas elsewhere. But he is not just selling a part of his stock blindly after it goes to a particular point. We have to find out, how he is deciding the point at which he is selling a part of his stock.

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Shashi Praharaj


Posted By: Ajith
Date Posted: 18/Dec/2006 at 10:37pm

Praharaj,

              We do not know the motive behind the share sale-perhaps it is for the property investments he is reported to have made.My reading is that the portfolio is by and large unchanged.



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Ajith


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 26/Dec/2006 at 1:02pm
`2007 will be year of consolidation and rise for the Indian markets' : Rakesh Jhunjhunwala

Source: Businessline - Dec. 25 - Bangalore

Equities delivered superior returns over the long term.
"Market is always right. Markets cannot be taught, they have to be learnt.

"We must have an attitude where we must balance fear and greed," was the hot tip by Mr Rakesh Jhunjhunwala, India's high-profile investor and President of Rare Enterprises, when he spoke at a
seminar on `Wealth creation through equity investments' organised by Welingkar Institute of Management here on Friday.

Mr Jhunjhunwala spoke about his convictions that made a case for sustaining the India growth story. Equities, because of their efficiency in allocating capital and ability to leverage, generated superior returns when compared to other assets over the long term, he said.

Since 1979, the Sensex has delivered 21 per cent returns compounded annual growth rate, which compares well with returns on funds managed by the legendary global investor Warren Buffet, he added.

Opportunities

Mr Jhunjhunwala said that enormous wealth was created over the last five years because opportunities in India have been manifold. There is a strong case for investing in equities considering its under-penetration today.

He predicts the proportion of household savings to equity to rise to 15 per cent in 2011 from 4.5 per cent now as a result of which about $45 billion would flow into equity markets as against $6 billion now. He expects 2007 to be a year of consolidation and rise for the Indian markets.
According to him, the Sensex may have a floor at 12,500 and a peak at 16,500 in 2007.

Admitting that gains were going to be moderate in future unlike the manifold rise over the last few years, he advised investors to be realistic in their expectations. He said that markets were unlikely to peak unless they were trading at a multiple of 25-30 times forward earnings. They are
currently trading at about 16 times their earnings for financial year 2008.

Growth momentum

Speaking on the strength in India's fundamentals, he elaborated on forces that would sustain the growth momentum. According to him, growth enablers (such as favourable demographics, higher base of skilled people and education base), liberalisation catalysts (such as competition), fall in interest rates, multiplier effect (on account of reforms), structural changes in quality of corporate earnings and micro trends (such as change in mindset of companies who are aspiring to become global) are likely to drive India's growth story to a higher level. He, however, cautioned that investors should not forget the four-letter word `Risk' while making investment decisions.

"Patience may be tested, but conviction will be rewarded," he said.
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: vip1
Date Posted: 26/Dec/2006 at 1:46pm
"Patience may be tested, but conviction will be rewarded," he said.
Golden words .


Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 09/Jan/2007 at 12:46pm
RJ turns bullish on KPO,buys Mumbai firm.He has bought majority ownership in Inventurus Knowledge Solution,a company that does back office work for US and UK based legal and healthcare firms,for an undisclosed sum.

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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 11/Jan/2007 at 9:44am
I saw that RJ bought 40 lac shares of IFCI that is about Rs 8 crore worth of shares.

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Posted By: monu_duggad
Date Posted: 13/Jan/2007 at 2:01pm
yeah..rather he accumulated it during past 2 months..when stock was in the 11-12 range....already its at 22...cool 80 % ROI

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Posted By: PrashantS
Date Posted: 13/Jan/2007 at 12:47pm
I think he is really smart...he knows what he is doing.........not easy tomake money like him...........


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 13/Jan/2007 at 9:16am
Did I mention that one day we would see RJ on the TIMES cover....I think he's on the way to that fame..........here is http://users1.wsj.com/lmda/do/checkLogin?mg=wsj-users1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB116864805190875808.html - one article in WSJ on him.
 
Indian Mogul Rises to Status Of Money Icon
Hunt for Undervalued Now Goes to the Mall; Like Warren Buffett
by Diya Gullapalli - Wall Street Journal - January 13, 2007

Mumbai, India -- Rakesh Jhunjhunwala, often referred to as "India's Warren Buffett," built his fortune over the past 20 years by shopping for undervalued local companies. Now he's shopping for shopping malls.

 
He is keen on the malls, and the consumer goods flying off the shelves there. There is "a big explosion of purchases in India," especially in areas like construction and jewelry, he said recently, sitting in his 15th-floor office here in Mumbai, India's financial capital, his back to the Arabian Sea just beyond the window.Mr. Jhunjhunwala, a chain-smoking, diamond-ring-wearing 46-year-old money manager, is idolized in India by millions of small investors who dream of following in his footsteps.
 
He is a fixture on Indian television, talking up his bull-market views, and on the lecture circuit -- addressing groups like the "Millennium Mams," an organization targeting housewives who want to learn about business. He makes headlines when buying 2% of a company's shares, sits on 10 boards of directors, and regularly finds fellow investors chasing his stock picks.
 
His investments map the arc of India's recent economic emergence. The son of a tax commissioner, Mr. Jhunjhunwala says he toyed with becoming a pilot but went into accounting instead. In the mid-1980s, he began playing the market with 5,000 rupees (just over $100 at today's exchange rates), and never looked back. One of his first investments: Tata Tea Ltd., which quickly took off. (Years later, Tata Tea would acquire British tea giant Tetley.) He subsequently moved into mining, where he made his first million rupees in iron-ore exporter Sesa Goa.
 

In this nation of castes and sometimes rigid tradition that can limit social and economic mobility, his is a relatively unusual story of self-created wealth. Today, he has amassed a $700 million fortune. While that pales in comparison with the real Buffetts of the world, it's a fortune in a country where average annual income is measured in hundreds of dollars. Mr. Buffett's fortune has been valued at more than $40 billion, though he is giving away big chunks of that to charity. Like India's stock market itself, Mr. Jhunjhunwala has had his share of setbacks. Last year, the Securities and Exchange Board of India cleared him and his wife in an investigation into stock-price manipulation. The case dealt with how some big trades from his firm a few years ago affected stock prices.

 
Mr. Jhunjhunwala's colleague, Utpal Sheth, says they are pleased with the outcome of the case and found regulators "sensible and fair." Mr. Jhunjhunwala certainly isn't the only Indian investor to benefit from the run-up in local markets in recent years. Many other value investors there have also become famous for spotting cheap stocks. And last May, when the Bombay Stock Exchange's benchmark 30-stock Sensitive Index, or Sensex, plunged amid a sharp retreat in emerging-markets stocks world-wide, Mr. Jhunjhunwala's portfolio tumbled along with it. He endured another big hit just a few weeks ago, when a dramatic downturn in Thailand's stock market rippled through India's market as well. Local newspapers blared headlines like "Blood Baht in Thai markets," a reference to a decline in Thailand's currency, the baht. India's shares fell 3% that day. The next day Mr. Jhunjhunwala, sitting in front of five computer screens in his office in the Nariman Point financial district, scribbled trades in a small notebook and barked orders to his assistants in Hindi to fetch tea and sell some shares.
 

"The market is on the weaker side today," Mr. Jhunjhunwala muttered -- an understatement -- sitting with his collared shirt untucked.

 
As the day unfolded, he found time to eat an elaborate Indian lunch and chat with a friend about bringing a bottle of whiskey that weekend to his house in the hills outside of Mumbai, formerly Bombay, which features a karaoke studio and gym. In his office, his assistants serve drinks on coasters printed with a quote stressing the importance of integrity and hard work that is attributed to John Bogle, Vanguard Group's founder. Displayed nearby are images of Hindu deities, as well as sketches of billionaires Mr. Buffett and George Soros. He built his private investment company, Rare Enterprises (the name merges the "Ra" from his first name with "Re" from his wife's name, Rekha), by investing mostly in smaller Indian stocks. His rise has differed from other Indian investing icons who made their names through speculation and fraud during the technology bubble of the 1990s.
 
One of his best recent moves was selling part of his stake in Indian rating company Crisil Ltd. to McGraw-Hill Cos.' Standard & Poor's Corp. for more than four times what he bought it for. S&P acquired a majority stake in the company last year. These days he is buying land in the south India city of Secunderabad, where he plans to build shopping malls, and backs private equity and other investments in a dredging firm, a radio station, a school and a security company.
 
"In Mumbai, he's very widely known" as a "bit of a blunt guy," says Pradeep Dokania, head of the global private-client group for DSP Merrill Lynch. However, "sometimes people may feel he's overconfident" about the markets. So far, his optimism has paid off. The Sensex has quadrupled in the past five years, and such growth is attracting foreigners. In just the past week, New York Stock Exchange parent NYSE Group Inc. and others said that they are buying a stake in India's National Stock Exchange.
 
And Mr. Jhunjhunwala is sticking to his guns. By 2010, he predicts India's gross domestic product growth will have hit 10% for at least one year.
 
In a slide show that outlines his investment philosophies, he says: The bull market in India "will really need God's wrath for it to be reversed prematurely."
 
 


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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 14/Jan/2007 at 2:41pm

Very very nice Bhaiyya jee. Ab thora sa help kar do ham small investos ko...apne kisi ek PE company ko public le aayo(partly maybe)...hame bhi khane do malai!

Anyway, good luck Rakesh jee and yes great article kulman jee.

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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 22/Jan/2007 at 9:06pm

Has anyone calculated thea average PE of the top 10 disclosed companies held by Rakesh Jhunjhunwala ?

 
The average is close to 45 times trailing. This shows us that investing in high PE stocks is not always foolish as some experts make it out to be.The top 10 stocks held are:
 
  NAGARJUNA CONSTRUCTION
  LUPIN                          

TITAN INDUSTRIES                         

  PRAJ INDUSTRIES                        
  CRISIL                                          
  PUNJ LOYD                                    
  BILCARE   

PANTALOON RETAIL                    

 GEOJIT FINANCE                             

KARUR VYSYA



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Posted By: Gorden
Date Posted: 22/Jan/2007 at 10:18pm
RJ has sold majority of his stake in Matrix Lab.
 
MP Laboratories (Mauritius) Ltd has aquired 71.46% stake in the company.
For details pls visit the following link
 
http://nseindia.com/marketinfo/companyinfo/online/takeover/online_takeover_71A.jsp?symbol=MATRIXLABS&desc=Reg+7+of+SEBI+%28Susbs+Acq+of+shares+%26+Takeovers%29&tstamp=220120071816&annexture=7%281%29&seq_id=2402 - http://nseindia.com/marketinfo/companyinfo/online/takeover/online_takeover_71A.jsp?symbol=MATRIXLABS&desc=Reg+7+of+SEBI+%28Susbs+Acq+of+shares+%26+Takeovers%29&tstamp=220120071816&annexture=7%281%29&seq_id=2402 &
 
 


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 22/Jan/2007 at 10:29pm
Very interesting. Matrix grew about 1000 times in the last 7 years. WOnder when he got into this one but he did make a real good solid multibagger out of this one.

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Posted By: PrashantS
Date Posted: 22/Jan/2007 at 11:02pm
But how does he see these things...........god only knows...may be we can have a movie on him...people around him will very rich.............


Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 22/Jan/2007 at 8:27am
RJ says 2007 will be the year of Titan.He is also bullish on Taneja Aerospace(ET)

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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 22/Jan/2007 at 8:31am
Manish Dave talked about Taneja a few months back. He also recommended it very strongly on this forum.

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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 24/Jan/2007 at 9:47am
Originally posted by omshivaya

Very very nice Bhaiyya jee. Ab thora sa help kar do ham small investos ko...apne kisi ek PE company ko public le aayo(partly maybe)...hame bhi khane do malai!

 
Topsgrup, the 150-crore security solution provider plans to acquire a UK based security guarding co by mid-Feb. The co. is eyeing South Africa,Middle-east, Far East and US as other potential markets to expand its operation.The company will fund the acquisition through internal accruals and with the help of private equity investors. RJ has 16% stake in the company.The company is also coming out with an IPO in 2008-09.


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 24/Jan/2007 at 10:12am
Top class investor in a Top class company shall earn Top returns. WIth increasing number of business and commercial establishments with greater number of wealthy people insecurity is bound to be high - hence the demand for this particular business should grow exponentially.

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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 25/Jan/2007 at 11:48am
RJ bhaiyya has been silently dumping IFCI for the last days and is continuously accumulating MTNL shares (ET). We have been discussing MTNL.May be due to IPTV he is buying or land bank.

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"You don't need to be a rocket scientist. Investing is not a game where the guy with the 160 IQ beat the guy with a 130 IQ. Rationality is essential"- Warren Buffett


Posted By: BubbleVision
Date Posted: 26/Jan/2007 at 12:15pm

Last week (if i am not mistaken) ET had reported that RJ Bhaiya had been picking up IFCI...wonder what's going on.

when in doubt stay out!



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Posted By: vip1
Date Posted: 26/Jan/2007 at 3:51pm
Today's Eco times reports of the Big Bull getting out of IFCI . So better watch out!


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 26/Jan/2007 at 5:12pm
When Bhaiya gets out there will be a heavy stampede!

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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 26/Jan/2007 at 11:24am
Originally posted by BubbleVision

Last week (if i am not mistaken) ET had reported that RJ Bhaiya had been picking up IFCI...wonder what's going on.

when in doubt stay out!

 
Bhaiyya is a trader and an investor.When he sees that one time gain has been priced in,he gets out.


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 28/Jan/2007 at 7:01am
......I had the opportunity of listening to him .........
 
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For once I thought u had this golden opportunity! Great work though, Devesh jee. Thanks.
 
Btw, who's Haresh Bihani?
 
 


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Posted By: BubbleVision
Date Posted: 28/Jan/2007 at 9:22am
Very good article Devesh... i really love his this advice...
 
Remember that is it important to “win the war despite losing many a battle”.
 
and
 
In trading, the first and the last principle is that trading is trend and price based, and not opinion based. This requires you to square an unfavorable trade regardless of your opinion. This means that if you buy a stock at Rs 100, and then the price falls to Rs 97, you take my loss and square off your trade. This is counter-intuitive to most people. This is the one common quality of all successful traders.


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You can't make money if you are unwilling to lose...It's like willing to breathe in but not willing to breathe out. -- ED SEYKOTA ....Read Disclaimer!


Posted By: BubbleVision
Date Posted: 28/Jan/2007 at 9:38am
I Would also like to highlight a rather complex point written very simply --
 
Good trading requires three qualities: broad idea of direction, knowing what and how much to risk, and knowing when and how to take a loss.


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You can't make money if you are unwilling to lose...It's like willing to breathe in but not willing to breathe out. -- ED SEYKOTA ....Read Disclaimer!


Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 28/Jan/2007 at 11:13am
Originally posted by kulman

......I had the opportunity of listening to him .........
 
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For once I thought u had this golden opportunity! Great work though, Devesh jee. Thanks.
 
Btw, who's Haresh Bihani?
 
 
 
It would be my dream come true.How can i go to IIM Calcutta. Harish Bihani is soon going to join First Global (Shankar Sharma) i took that post from his blog.Like u Copy - Paste!!!
Off-topic: Bhaiyya has purchased a flat worth 25 crores from e-auction in Malabar Hill last year.


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Posted By: nikhil090
Date Posted: 10/Feb/2007 at 9:02am
RJ's Dec portfolio. Maybe Basant jee can do a much deeper analysis
 


Posted By: manishkayal
Date Posted: 10/Feb/2007 at 10:33am
Every Chartered Accountant Student has to go through Computer Training Course through an acredited institution one of them is SSI (division of Aptech). The fees is Rs 4000 exclusive of taxes.There are 3,50,000 CA students and increasing.Imagine the revenue they may be doing by this if u take a ballpark figure.I think the margin should be more than 50%.


Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 11/Feb/2007 at 10:47pm
Anuradha SenGupta: You have often and emphatically pointed out that there's a lot of research, a lot of data gathering and a lot of knowledge accumulation that goes into this business of yours. What do you read?

Rakesh Jhunjhunwala: See, I read Economist and India Today, which I read cover to cover every week. In the Economist, I read the entire business section and the science and technology section. These are my constant reads. Then I read broker reports and go through balance sheets.
 
From today onwards i will too start reading Economist


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 11/Feb/2007 at 10:13am
Originally posted by manishkayal

Every Chartered Accountant Student has to go through Computer Training Course through an acredited institution one of them is SSI (division of Aptech). The fees is Rs 4000 exclusive of taxes.There are 3,50,000 CA students and increasing.Imagine the revenue they may be doing by this if u take a ballpark figure.I think the margin should be more than 50%.
 
That makes APtech a no brainer!!!


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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 11/Feb/2007 at 10:25am
Originally posted by basant

Originally posted by manishkayal

Every Chartered Accountant Student has to go through Computer Training Course through an acredited institution one of them is SSI (division of Aptech). The fees is Rs 4000 exclusive of taxes.There are 3,50,000 CA students and increasing.Imagine the revenue they may be doing by this if u take a ballpark figure.I think the margin should be more than 50%.
 
That makes APtech a no brainer!!!
 
Basantji,can u give more clarity on this.Are u taking about stock.


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Posted By: bullzi
Date Posted: 11/Feb/2007 at 10:25am
It is down 11-12% today.
Has anybody been tracking this stock?


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It's not whether you're right or wrong that's important, but how much money you make when you're right and how much you lose when you're wrong - George Soros


Posted By: Mohan
Date Posted: 12/Feb/2007 at 2:56am

 
http://equityguru.blogspot.com/2007/02/rakesh-jhunjhunwala-portfolio-december.html - Rakesh Jhunjhunwala Portfolio  December 2006

 
No. Name % stake
1 Aptech 18.4
2 Agro Tech Foods 4.3
3 Alphageo (India) 1.6
4 Bharat EarthMove 1.5
5 Bhushan Steel 2.4
6 Bilcare 11.6
7 CRISIL 8.1
8 Geojit Fin. Ser. 13.1
9 Geometric Soft. 2.9
10 Hind.Oil Exploration 3.9
11 Infomedia India 5.4
12 Karur Vysya Bank 4.8
13 Lupin 3.6
14 Mid-Day Multimed 5.0
15 Nag. Constructn. 6.7
16 Panama Petrochem 1.2
17 Pantaloon Retail 1.7
18 Praj Inds. 10.4
19 Prime Focus 6.9
20 Punj Lloyd 1.9
21 Ramco Systems 1.0
22 Titan 6.7
23 Vadilal Inds. 2.9
24 Viceroy Hotels 12.1
25 Zenotech Lab. 3.1
Source: Bseindia.com



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Posted By: Siddhartha
Date Posted: 12/Feb/2007 at 3:30am
Anybody knows, how to find Bhaiya's latest portfolio on bseindia webseite? Any how I am not getting it through Google search.


Posted By: BubbleVision
Date Posted: 12/Feb/2007 at 5:29am
Siddhartha -- check out the individual scripts shareholding pattern to know Bhaiya's holding.

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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 12/Feb/2007 at 10:06am
The latest shareholding pattern for ALL companies is not yet out will update it as soon as it is released.

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Posted By: ashwin.adsouza
Date Posted: 15/Feb/2007 at 9:54pm
@nikhil  - The %'s quoted in the website seem to be the percentage owned by RJ in these companies equity capital.
 
Looking at the list, one question arises in my mind, why does he hold more than 25 stocks in his portfolio? Looks like he is not a great believer in concentration, but believes more in picking the stories early on.


Posted By: nikhil090
Date Posted: 15/Feb/2007 at 10:05pm
I think even though he is picking up 25 stock majority of his investment (value wise) is in top 5-7 companies.. I think he likes to watch and understand a company by being a part of it rather than just owning. On his great ideas, he puts much more money.. The analysis done earlier by Basant jee highlights this point. You can read earlier part of the thread..


Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 27/Feb/2007 at 9:22pm
Rakesh Jhunjhunwala
On Investing: Its a factor of earnings and valuation.The market is looking good and I do not think P/E multiples are necessarily unsustainable.
 
On the Sensex: This will depend on earnings, which in turn, will depend on economic development and interest rates. To me, for the Sensex , 50,000 mark in 13 years appears pessimistic.
 
On Long-Term: I look at long term as atleast 3-7 years.
 
On Strategy: Always invest in the business model of any company. For me the reason for optimism is earnings growth drivers.
Source: Business Today


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Posted By: tigershark
Date Posted: 27/Feb/2007 at 9:42pm
it appears that he has raised his stake in zenotech labs and viceroy hotelsand brought down in beml, nagarjuna.

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Posted By: mukesh
Date Posted: 02/Mar/2007 at 1:08pm

BREAKING NEWS

RJ sold 450,000 shares in Praj
News Subject:  

Praj Industries - Disclosures under Reg.13(6) of SEBI (Prohibition of Insider Trading) Regulations, 1992

News Body:  

The Exchange has received the following disclosure under Regulation 13 (6) of SEBI (Prohibition of Insider Trading) Regulations, 1992:

Name & Address of Director / Officer / Shareholders

Date of acquisition / sale

Date of intimation to company

Mode of acquisition/sale

No. & % of shares of pre acquisition /sale Buy Qty Sell Qty

No. & % of shares of post acquisition/sale

V A Datar Feb 1, 2007 to Feb 15, 2007 Feb 19, 2007 Market Sell 54,000
(0.06%)
  9,000 45,000
(0.05%)
Feb 9,  2007 Feb 19, 2007 Option exercised under ESOP 45,000
(0.05%)
6,000   51,000
(0.06%)
Rakesh Jhunjhunwala Feb 19, 2007 to Feb 21, 2007 Feb 22, 2007 Market Sale 9,650,262
(11.51%)
  450,000 9,200,262
(10.97%)



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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 02/Mar/2007 at 3:13pm

I dont understand why he sold his stake.Basantji what did u make of this news.



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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 02/Mar/2007 at 3:29pm
No idea really.

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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 02/Mar/2007 at 4:55pm
I dont understand why this is being discussed so much.
I mean, if he has exited his entire or a significant part of his holdings, then
perhaps its merits a discussion.

He has just sold a very small fraction of his holding, and still holds 10.97%
of the equity(as compared to the prev holding of 11.51%)

Maybe he just needed some small pocket money change for the holi celebrations!  Wink


Originally posted by deveshkayal

I dont understand why he sold his stake.Basantji what did u make of this news.



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The people with experience get the money while people with money get experience!


Posted By: tigershark
Date Posted: 02/Mar/2007 at 7:47pm
yes yu r right investor why make 1% sale out of 11% such headline news maybe bhaiya had taken along position in the futures mkt bfore the budget

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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 03/Mar/2007 at 8:41pm
I thought he sold his entire stake in Praj. Its my mistake.

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"You don't need to be a rocket scientist. Investing is not a game where the guy with the 160 IQ beat the guy with a 130 IQ. Rationality is essential"- Warren Buffett


Posted By: RAKESH
Date Posted: 07/Mar/2007 at 9:04pm

BREAKING NEWS

RJ sold 199950 shares in Praj

The Exchange has received the following disclosure under Regulation 13 (6) of SEBI (Prohibition of Insider Trading) Regulations, 1992:

Name & Address of Director / Officer / Shareholders

Date of acquisition / sale

Date of intimation to company

Mode of acquisition/sale

No. & % of shares of pre acquisition /sale Buy Qty Sell Qty

No. & % of shares of post acquisition/sale

Rakesh Jhunjhunwala Feb 22, 2007 to Feb 23, 2007 Feb 26, 2007 Market Sale 9,200,262
(10.97%)
  199,950 9,000,312
(10.73%)
SOURCE BSE SITE
 


Posted By: RAKESH
Date Posted: 07/Mar/2007 at 9:06pm
WHY IS HE SELLING HIS STAKE ANY IDEA...........


Posted By: tigershark
Date Posted: 07/Mar/2007 at 9:39am
he is not selling his stake he is reducing it

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Posted By: Mohan
Date Posted: 08/Mar/2007 at 9:13pm
Maybe he is selling to make other people sell so that he can buy more Wink

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Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful.


Posted By: Gorden
Date Posted: 12/Mar/2007 at 10:24pm
He has just sold 2 lakh shares out of his holding of 90 Lakhs shares in Praj. The stock has moved to almost double the price of his investments & still a long way to go. Ethanol story is yet to begin in India. So guys wait & watch

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Posted By: Ajith
Date Posted: 12/Mar/2007 at 8:48am
 RJ is selling Praj because now everyone is talking about the immense potential of ethanol;it is a cool contra call -as cool as his decision to buy Praj when no one was looking at it..Also what happens to the ethanol story if oil prices decline?

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