Network 18 - A Media Conglomerate
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Topic: Network 18 - A Media Conglomerate
Posted By: basant
Subject: Network 18 - A Media Conglomerate
Date Posted: 05/Sep/2006 at 11:52am
This topic was started before Tv18 demerged into Network 18 and TV18 India
TV18- Spin off could take it up the four figure mark
http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29 - TV 18 which is a great play on Internet and CAS isplanning to split up its businesses into two different companies. When ever a company spins its business it creates huge value for shareholders I have tried doing an academic exercise as to how the different companies could be valued at post the restructuring.A couple of adys we discussed http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=261 - how spinoffs can create multibaggers and I am using that same logic to work here.
Company |
What shall they hold |
TV 18 |
CNBC TV!18 and AWAAZ plus 85% stake in web18 the internet holding company of the company. |
Network 18* |
51% in TV 18; 51% in Global broadcast news that shall hold the CNN-IBN news channel |
* As reported in Business Standard.
Shareholders will be given shares in the following ratio. |
Share holders holding 10 shares in TV 18 |
14 shares in TV 18 of Rs 5 paid up. |
12 shares in Network 18 of Rs 5 paid up. |
Exhibit – 1 Financials of TV 18 in 2008 post split up |
Number of Equity shares @ Rs 5 each |
5.24 crores |
Revenues (See exhibit 2) |
240 crores |
Net Profit: |
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CNBC TV 18 and Awaaz |
Rs 72 crores |
Internet 85% of Rs 60 crores |
Rs 51 crores |
Total profit |
Rs 123 crores |
EPS |
Rs 23.52 |
Market price |
Rs 470 |
PE |
20 times |
Market Capitalization (Rs 470 x 5.24 crores) |
Rs 2444 crores |
Workings:
Ø Post de-merger TV 18 will derive revenues from the CNBC TV 18 and the Awaaz.
Exhibit – 2 Revenue from CNBC TV 18 and Awaaz TV 18 |
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Fy 06 |
Fy 07 |
Fy 08 |
CNBC TV 18 |
Rs 136 crores |
Rs 170 crores |
Rs 213 crores |
Growth |
|
25% |
25% |
Awaaz |
Not reported |
Rs 40 crores |
Rs 52 crores |
Growth |
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30% |
30% |
Total revenues |
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Rs 210 crores |
Rs 265 crores |
The expected revenue from these two channels in Fy 08 works out to Rs 265 crores I have taken it at Rs 240 crores after accounting for about 10% on account of contingencies etc CNBC TV 18 has been growing in excess of 45% over the last few years but I have tried to be conservative in the estimates.
Ø The Net profit margin is assumed to be maintained at 30%. Normally with broadcasting companies any increase in sales add more to the profits because the fixed costs salaries of anchors etc remain the same.
Ø EPS is Net profit/ No. of shares = Rs 123 crores/5.24 crores = Rs 23.52 per share.
Ø The Internet subsidiary Web 18 would be held 85% by TV 18. In FY 08 Web 18 should do a net profit of Rs 60 crores. See section below. 85% of Rs 60 crores = Rs 51 crores
Ø TV 18 has consistently maintained an RoE of more then 30% but we would take a PE of 20 to be on the conservative side..
Ø Market price = EPS x PE = Rs 470 (23.52 x 20)
Ø Market Capitalization is equal to number of shares x Market price = Rs 470 x 5.24 crores= Rs 2444 crores.
We now analyze the financials of Network 18 after the split:
Exhibit – 3 Financials of Network 18 |
Number of Equity shares @ Rs 5 each |
5 crores |
Net Profit: |
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51% in GBN [Rs 40 crores x 51%] (See exhibit 7) |
Rs 20 crores |
51% from TV18 [Rs 126 crores x 50%] (See exhibit 1) |
Rs 63 crores |
Total Net profit (Rs 63 crores + Rs 20 crores) |
Rs 83 crores |
EPS |
Rs 16.60 |
PE |
20 times |
Market price |
Rs 332 |
Market Capitalization (Rs 220 x 5 crores) |
Rs 1662 crores |
Workings:
Ø Total net profit would consist of the proportionate profits from TV 18 and GBN.
Ø EPS is Net profit/ No. of shares = Rs 83 crores/Rs 5 crores = Rs 16.60 per share.
Ø Assuming a PE of 20 times the stock would sell at Rs 332 (Rs 16.60 x 20).
Ø Market Capitalization equals Market price x No. of shares = Rs 332 x 5 crores = Rs 1660 crores.
I have assumed the internet business to grow multifold. A look at the revenues from Moneycontrol (see exhibit 6) indicates that it can grow at that speed.
The growth: The growth from internet revenues has been taken at over 5 times in Fy 07 and only 2.4 times in Fy 08. Haresh Chawla (CEO TV 18) expects it to grow 6 times in the current year and for the year after that he has not committed but the growth could be as strong a 3 times. In that case Revenues from internet ventures should cross Rs 200 crores in Fy 2008.
Exhibit – 4 Revenues from Internet ventures |
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2005 (A) |
2006 (A) |
2007 (E) |
2008 (E) |
Revenues |
2.08 |
14.92 |
60.00 |
140.00 |
Growth in revenues |
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6 times plus |
Read note below |
Net profit |
|
Rs 25 crores |
Rs 60 crores |
Note: The net profit percentage should be far higher (see exhibit 6) where growth in net sales is far less then the growth in net profits. I have been again conservative so that we may err on the side of caution. In broadcasting and internet companies majority of the costs are fixed and any increase in revenues adds directly to the bottom-line.
Broadband penetration is happening at 100% y-o-y and with the new internet properties lined up the growth could be even stronger. By 2010 the total broadband users are expected too rise by 15 times from the present level. In another two years the Internet ventures of the company could see revenues from the following areas:
Exhibit – 5 Internet properties lined up |
Moneycontrol |
ibnlive |
Yatraonline |
Cricketnext |
JobsStyreet |
Compare India |
Poweryourtrade |
commoditiescontrol |
Acquisitions/Launch in lifestyle showbiz segment will follow |
Out of these only money control and power your trade seem to have reached traction and revenues from the others will start to kick in over the next few months.
A look at the financials of e-eighteen for the relevant period shows the kind of growth moneycontrol and Poweryourtrade have been able to achieve.
Exhibit – 6 Financials of e-eighteen |
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2005 |
2006 |
Revenues |
Rs 2.22 crores |
Rs 9.64 crores |
Profits |
Rs (0.21) crores |
Rs 5.19crores |
Revenue Growth |
|
377% |
Exhibit – 7 Financials of GBN |
|
2008 |
|
Revenues: |
|
|
CNNIBN |
Rs 120 crores |
NDTV 24/7 did Rs 100 crores in 2005. |
IBN -7 |
Rs 80 crores |
Assumed |
Cost |
|
|
IBN |
Rs 90.00 crores |
GBN prospectus talks about a cost of Rs 5.25 crore per month (assumed some increase0 |
IBN – 7 |
Rs 60 crores |
GBN prospectus talks about a cost of Rs 4.00 crore per month (assumed some increase0 |
Profit: |
|
|
CNNIBN |
Rs 30 crores |
(Rs 120 crores – Rs 84 crores) |
IBN -7 GBN holds 50% in IBN -7 |
Rs 10 crores |
50%(Rs 80 crores – Rs 60 crores) |
Total |
Rs 40 crores |
Rs 3984 (Rs 332 x 12) |
Valuation Matrix |
Value of shares |
10 shares of TV 18 (listed company) |
Rs 6070 |
14 shares in TV 18 Ltd (CNBC TV18 + Awaaz) Rs 470 x 14shares |
Rs 6580 |
Network 18 – Holding company Rs 332 x 12 shares |
Rs 3984 |
Total value for 10 shares after listing |
Rs 10,564 |
Net Absolute Gain per share (Rs 10964 – 6070)/10 |
449.40 |
Net percentage Gain 449.40/607 x 100 |
74.07% |
Conclusion: Once the restructuring happens the consolidated value of TV 18 should move up to Rs 1056 implying again of 74.07%. I have not assumed the
n Value of the 20+% stake of TV 18 in GBN.
n I have not built in any positives from the roll out of CAS and DTH where pricing after the initial period of one year should become market driven.
n I have also not taken the value of GBN’s 15% holding in web 18 which TV 18 and network 18 indirectly benefit out of such holding.
There could be many changes from the above lying assumptions and I have assumed that they would neutralize each other. For instance lower sales could be offset by higher margins and so on and so forth. This is because I have been conservative in my estimates.
Haresh Chawla in an interview to Business Standard recently said “I believe that the entire industry is headed for a re-rating of its business model. I expect that in the next 3-4 years we will garner anywhere between 30-35 per cent of overall top line from subscription revenues (in absolute terms it may go up by 4-5 times), about 50 per cent from advertising and the balance from the Web services business.
Recommendation: Readers may treat this calculation as an academic exercise because companies in a spin off mode rework a lot of strategies so any change would affect the price but otherwise I feel that this target of Rs 1056 should easily be achieved over the next year in case these assumptions are met..
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Replies:
Posted By: smart_investor
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 12:27pm
What are your views on TV Today and ZEE Tv ?
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Posted By: patnitin
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 12:31pm
Mr.Basant,
Does the analysis get affected in any way by the TRAI restricting the subscription per channel per subscription to max Rs.5.In this the Company may have to share with the operators/distributors.
Though after the announcment by trai all media stocks fell and recovered.
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Posted By: smart_investor
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 12:37pm
how optimistic you are about CAS implementation?
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 12:47pm
Tv Today seems to have lost out while the large number of hindi channels are good for viewers it is bad for these channels also the hindi channel runs on sting operations; Shakti Kapoor etc etc. So if I am an advertiser in IBN & or AAj TAk I am not sure who on that particular day will do a sting and take away the audiance for whom I am being charged extra premium.
ZEE should tremendously benefit. It is another candidate for spin offsa and http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=261 - spinoffs can create multibaggers .
CAS will ahve to be implemented. Today we have 300 channels and no Tv captures them all. So market forces will allow CAS/DTH to be implemented. Once that happens Tv 18 should do far better.
Look at it this way an ET costs Rs 2 per day and if you can get a CNBC for Rs 5 a month how much pricing power would the broadcaster have. The TRAI says that price freeze is only for one year - that too is being contested After CAS declared subscribers willl go up by 3 - 5 tiems and also the rates You may read about thsi aspect on http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29 - TV 18 CAS(E for internet valuations .
Even if l CAs does not happen DTH should come up and bothe CAS/DTH benefit all broadcasters but the major beneficiary shall be ZEE and 18.
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Posted By: RAKESH
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 6:31pm
dear sir when is the record date
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 6:43pm
Yet to be announced but very near.
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Posted By: RAKESH
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 6:52pm
BUT CURRENTLY IS 10 PAID UP
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Posted By: ashwin.adsouza
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 6:52pm
Mr.Basant, The analysis on TV18 is quite interesting and in depth. Also in the same media related space there is a another company Hinduja TMT that has decided to demerge its business. Have you done any sort of similar analysis on Hinduja TMT? That analysis would also be very helpful for investors to gain knowledge on HTMT.
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 7:03pm
HTMT could rise in a similar mode. people with 6 months - 1 year should double money.Their mkt cap is 2300 crs and money made from hutch stake is around 2k crores now think!!!
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Posted By: Ajith
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 10:54pm
Mr. Basant,will there be any tax liablity on receiving the 5 paid-up shares of the 2 companies.That may depress current TV 18 price vis-a-vis the new entity prices.
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 11:02pm
No. Not that I heard of.The compoany is being split so there is no income as such.
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Posted By: b_kothari2001
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 1:23am
Basant, your analysis is looks good to me.
Cheers,
Bharat
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Sep/2006 at 6:58am
Thank you. But for the time being we will take it as indicative only. The internet bueiness is the real kicker and should surprise on the upside. In about 18 months the internet business should be valued at what the WHOLE company is valued today but we would rather be conservative and take things as they come.
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 08/Sep/2006 at 12:45pm
Basant,
Please help me to understand on what criterion should we value Media companies?
TV18 had 127 cr of sales in FY06, and at CMP OF 609, has a market cap of 1280 cr
Thats a mcap/sales of more than 10, PE is also 60+
So how to go about this?
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Sep/2006 at 12:59pm
You are looking at stand alone numbers should look at consolidated numbers. I think we discussed this aspect elsewhere on the forum also. For companies that have a high operating margin the market cap to sales will always be higher
That is why we cannot compare mkt cap to sales for one company to another within different sectors.we can compare TV 18 with an NDTv but not TV 18 with SAIL.
World over media companeis are valued at free cash flow basis and also on content. ZEE has some of the best content libraries in India. theyt could run a movie 10 times in 10 years but money is paid only once.Now if the company is writing it off then over aperiod of time an immense value of hidden assets are created.
News company do not have that advantge because you cannot run a news clip of 1988 in 2008. But still they are valuable in the sense content comes free - people talk about events/stocks/politics and anchors facilkitate the discussion!!!
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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 08/Sep/2006 at 2:22pm
in media:
1) entertainment: zee ?
2) info.: tv18
i am somewhat not too convinced with the zee management? they dont feel allright to me?
basant jee, mind throwing some light on this? i am more confident on TV18, but zee you are saying can be a big growth story too? can you throw up some fugures for the growth story ahead for zee. would appreciate it!
thanks very much!
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Sep/2006 at 2:52pm
Firstly let me tell you that I really liked the ticker that goes at the bottom of your post. In the markets we need to worship the Bad forces (operators) with the good forces (investors) -rahu ketu etc.
I would not back Zee as an investment candidate the management says that it would do a lot of things cable through SitiCable, DTH through DIsh TV, Zee is already the number 1 channel but a bad management can ruin a great concept and vice versa.
However I am told that SUbhas Chandra has agreed to change his ways after all http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69 - Mc- Dowell was also a bad management stock .
In case that is correct then ZEE could go very high up. Chandra has been known for his implementing skills and this time also it could be different.
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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 08/Sep/2006 at 9:21pm
First of all basant jee, thank you so much that you liked my signature. Yes, Ketu, Rahu and Shani should be worshipped as they can really mess up a person's life. And thanks very much for your info. on Zee.
Placing a bet on a high-risk:high-return stock is okay to me, but at least I should know that the top brass of the compan is willing to do it all for growing the company, I mean kill themselves to make a killing in the market. That is why I like Pantaloon. Even though it may fail, I am confident of it and am going to buy it bcoz biyani jee comes in public and declares that "we are going to have a turnover of 15 times of current turnover in next 4 years". Can chandra say the same or something of that sort(whatever target he has set in mind). The management should be hungry and should have a killer instinct. Once I see that, then I do the analysis of what they can realistically achieve. In case of Zee, Chandra jee doesnt bring out that confidence in me.
It would be perfect for me, if Chandra comes out and says: "OK, now in the next 4 years we are going to increase our turnover by 5 times" or "we shall reach this target by 2010". Let's see if Chandra jee can go public with his target! That is the real TEST! I would love to see him do that!
Thanks again for your help basant jee!
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Sep/2006 at 9:39pm
Absolutely I agree 100% Chandra cannot and rather wil not. it is a case of a man's confidence. Biyani could have declared anything 3 years ago and got away with it no one would have bothered to check whether he achieved what he said or not but today he can take shelter in his laurells and step aside from making those predictions and speak only for the next year because if he goes along and fails the whole of the Indian Media print and electronic will have a lot of work to do.. But if he achieves it then also they will have a lot of work to do,
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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 08/Sep/2006 at 9:56pm
Agree sir.
Infrastructure seems to be thrust area for Indian economy to grow big. But L&T has moved up too much. I see Retail(Pantaloon), Media(TV18) as next growth areas. I am sure people like RJ may have already identified the next growth area even beyond the Retailing part. If we could somehow know that, we could get at least one stock which gives the same returns as RJ gets from his stocks!
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 12/Sep/2006 at 12:40pm
Thanks Basant, made use of the crash yesterday and got into TV18 when it went down 7%. Just bought an initial investment, 25% of my planned investment. Will continue to track and but it on dips.
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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 12/Sep/2006 at 4:38pm
I havent bought yet. Good luck investor. I plan to soon.
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Posted By: deepinsight
Date Posted: 05/Nov/2006 at 1:46am
Mr. Basant: can you suggest what part of TV18 one should hold/add to after the split up?
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 05/Nov/2006 at 9:37am
We would analyse that aftyer it is listed since that decision should be based on valuations you would agree. But it would make sense to hold both of them.
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 05/Nov/2006 at 10:18am
My fiancee was reporter with ibn7, i spoke to her and her friends working with aajtak and ndtv yesterday. she told me that trp of tv18 is almost double of its nearest rival.
and the management is making positive changes. the trp will only go up. this would mean higher revenues through advertisements and higher profit.
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 05/Nov/2006 at 11:34am
Good of you to share this with us.Where is your fiancee working right now?
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 12:19pm
now she s working as a free lancer.
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Posted By: PrashantS
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 1:48pm
Basantji TV18 has been the hot stock....do you think it is better to buy more after the demeger...please advice
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Posted By: xbox
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 2:39pm
Basant Jee, I admitt your fortsightness. The day I read your article about TV18, I picked a lot. Instantly I admited your point. I am same guy who has concentrated pitch to Yes Bank. I don’t have solid argument like you have for TV18 for YES Bank. But Basant Jee, just remember me after 10 years. YES bank will become ICICI Bank in 8-10 years. 20 Times from here ?? could be. I hope one day I write complete argument on YES Bank. Somewhere on this board, I wrote little about this but it was far from complete.
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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 2:49pm
Basantji,what will i get have only 5 shares of TV 18
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 3:10pm
Originally posted by vipul
Basant Jee, I admitt your fortsightness. The day I read your article about TV18, I picked a lot. Instantly I admited your point. I am same guy who has concentrated pitch to Yes Bank. I don’t have solid argument like you have for TV18 for YES Bank. But Basant Jee, just remember me after 10 years. YES bank will become ICICI Bank in 8-10 years. 20 Times from here ?? could be. I hope one day I write complete argument on YES Bank. Somewhere on this board, I wrote little about this but it was far from complete. |
Thank you. Feels great to have contributed in what ever way. It is great to discuss Buffet and Lynch but the bottomline is we all do that because we want to make money. Let us believe that irrespective of where Tv18 would be we continue to have high level discussion and money will follow if not in "A" then in "B" or else in "C".
I like Yes Bank also and what you say may well be true please do start a thread on that and we could keep adding what ever we have on that. In the section "Which Private Bank will the foreigners buy?" I had written a bit about Yes Bank.
I hope that you are able to do that in 10 years because :
1) It means some of us who buy this stock would be very rich
2) This site would exist till then.
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 3:20pm
Originally posted by deveshkayal
Basantji,what will i get have only 5 shares of TV 18 |
7 shares of Tv 18 of Rs 5 paid up
6 shares of Network 18 (holding co.) of Rs 5 paid up
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Posted By: India_Bull
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 3:29pm
Hi Basantji,
I have become a fan of yours.Indepth analysis and foresight and vision are some of the qualities you have. Since the day I got to know this site ,I have gone thru each and every post of yours. I am not saying because of the shares purchased based on the discussions have gone up today. I have read your posts when the market was down in July aug and still you were confident on the stocks u have recommended.
The market is volatile and the prices may go up and down but we need to find values looking at the future which is uncertain.
I think you are doing a gr8 job of creating wealth for the boarders.
Thanks and keep it up...
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 3:51pm
Thanks Sandeepji. I feel honoured but we will have our own share of failures as well and that time I hope that all members would take it in their normal stride.
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 3:57pm
i have purchased a few shares of tv18 earlier after reading your analysis.
then i was waiting for it to go down and it did touched 680 last week, but i missed the opportunity.
will u advice me to purchase some more at 900+ level?
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 4:06pm
Very tough call. If we see 3 years ahead it would not mater but maybe if someone has a 4-6 month perspective the risks have increased.I would not buy now maybe because I am already over loaded but even otherwise I would not have bought it though it is still to approach full value. Hope it does not sound too confusing!
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 4:10pm
it is not confusing ..crystal clear .
so i ll plus zee tele on dips. i hope i am doing right.
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 4:16pm
Yes. Zee/NDTV take an initial position and then time the market thereafter.
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Posted By: India_Bull
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 5:38pm
Offcourse, it goes without saying......
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Posted By: catchsudipto
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 5:48pm
Dear Sir,
I want to congratulate U for such a great call in
TV-18. Its really a stunner. Wish i had added more hearing your
advise .
Anyway its a great one, Sir keep it UP 
thanks
sudipto
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Posted By: vip1
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 6:43pm
Basant,
Congrats ,The best part of the forum on TV18 was thay you had all the fact and figures together, and the stock ultimately followed it .
I agree with Vipul ,Yes Bank seems to be a big story going ahead . Let us try to dig it out.
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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 7:14pm
I agree Basant ji. You know loads of "in-the-know" people and you also have a knwck for facts and figures. Please would you analyze "yes bank". We dont want to miss out on somethig like a 20-bagger, even if there is a chance of it. Let's see if there is any fire behind the smoke. Who better than you?
You can take time as I know the research could take some hefty time.
Thanks
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Posted By: tigershark
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 7:45pm
what is heartening to know is that a nobody thats basant as far
as fii and the so called mutual funds are concerened does a great in
depth study of tv18 then a few mortals like us beleive in his story and
pile on and now every body wants to get in bcos they have realised that
value unlocking is going to take place.so congrats basant on your great
insight and whatever i have and will earn on tv18 really belongs to yu
but being the greedy sob that iam ishall not give it to yu any idea why ekta has been making sexy moves for the last 2 days anything yu heard or is it valuations just catching up
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 8:46pm
Thank you for all this. After all each one buys and hold with his own money so while you could give me credit for introducing this the real winner is the investor who had bet his money.
Balaji: Under CAS /DTH content could be in demand and also stock had been a dog for so long perhaps just catching up.I again repeat that the dominant customer (STAR Tv) is something that hold me back from getting over excited on this stock. Good co. to hold though.
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 9:03pm
basant ji what is the best bet right now( except tv18)
zee
balaji
ndtv
i don;t want to dilute , will start picking up one and consolidating it.
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 9:14pm
Zee - We are looking at another spin off in January plus cas/dth plus it has increased its ratings on the TRP charts.
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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 11:38pm
TV18 I have a feeling...may touch the four figure mark this week itself. Myabe by day after. But a 5-10% correction from there I would think so...bcoz the weak hands would as usual want to do what they love doing "book profits as it has run up so much" 
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Posted By: deepinsight
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 2:49am
Mr. Basant:
Congratulations on your analysis, conviction and openness to share and defend your view on TV18. Its because of the forums Q&A and your clear analysis that helped more people to build conviction.
The process itself is what has a lot of value - if we could bring this kind of deapth, facts, clear thought to more companies - it can be of enormous value to the many individual investors.
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Posted By: deepinsight
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 2:52am
Mr Basant: Have two questions:
1. FII's/PIO's/NRE's cannot buy TV18 as the limit has been reached according to RBI site. Is there any way for NRI's/PIO's to buy this share?
2. Post break up- which part of TV18 makes better investment?
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 6:51am
TV18 I have a feeling...may touch the four figure mark this week itself. Myabe by day after. But a 5-10% correction from there I would think so...bcoz the weak hands would as usual
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Yes, the rise has been mind boggling. No stock ever grows in a straight line as BubbleVision might tell us but here the story is not charts or technicals it is 24th November and what happens after that.It would be very interesting and a part of a learning process to actually see how this stock behaves till Nov 24th considering we have already been up 50% in about 2 weeks!
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 7:10am
Originally posted by deepinsight
Mr Basant: Have two questions:
1. FII's/PIO's/NRE's cannot buy TV18 as the limit has been reached according to RBI site. Is there any way for NRI's/PIO's to buy this share?
2. Post break up- which part of TV18 makes better investment? |
DeepInsight, Catch Sudipto, VIP: The objective was to introduce the idea once that is done you guys took your own decision and bought it
The foreign holding ceiuling is closed but maybe you could use some of your relatives (the immediate ones) to buy. A friend of mine who had taken a position in JUne was asked by the RBI to sell and he had to sell off at Rs 470 after buying at Rs 435 odd. WOnder how Manish has bought it or maybe he holds it for a long time.
WHich one to hold we could decide post the listing and after checking the valuations. Network 18 would have a provision for FII buying from what ever I could calculate.
Catch Sudipto: about not having enough is a feeling I also have. That is just human. Now when I think seriously I could not have sold off my house to buy this stock but still I feel that I could have had those extra shares. So there is nothing unusual in getting that feeling unless it tends to frustate you because "things without remedy should be without regard".
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Posted By: catcall
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 8:49am
Dear basantji...am putting up a post after a long holiday... TV18 was one hell of a call from your end. i have been holding this stock from the 360 levels, and your detailed analysis hardened my conviction to hold on to this stock..Congratulations!! 
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 10:26am
Thanks. Hope you had a nice holiday!
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 11:50am
basant ji can you do a detailed analysis of zee as u did in case of tv18.
your prediction of tv18 touchin 4 figure mark will be true this week sooner or later.
how do u rate zee??
i have started acumulating it. following the staggered approach.
i hope forum members will benefit once again from your vision.
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 07/Nov/2006 at 12:19pm
Shall try to but to do that kind of an analysis the company needs to be followed very closely.I have never looked that closely at Zee.
Price seems to have run fast (though still justified) taking that 1 k call is tough really maybe some one who reads the charts well could help if at all!!!
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 07/Nov/2006 at 1:29pm
as expected profit bookin in tv18. is it advisable to plus it while the day ends???
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Posted By: tigershark
Date Posted: 07/Nov/2006 at 4:55am
now RD of nucleus fame has got serious bout ZEE .RJ of crisil is
already in whats your view basant todays correction can used as an
entry point
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 07/Nov/2006 at 10:19am
take an initial position....25% or so...follow staggered approach
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 12:24pm
does it makes sense to accumulate tv18 now? at 850 levels?
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 1:25pm
I wish I could have given a correct opinion. AN intra day price of Rs 940 in the previous day makes Rs 845 look very compelling!!! That is all. This could be a mirage or an opportunity who knows?
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 6:47pm
The stock goes off trading from the close of trading hours of November 17th 2006.
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Posted By: vip1
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 6:52pm
Basant,
When does it relist?
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 7:12pm
Posted By: vip1
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 7:13pm
Posted By: India_Bull
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 7:37pm
Basantji,
Is this still an opportunity for those who missed the bus (and who want to add more )to buy at 850 or 800 levels? I was holding them patiently from the level of 575-610...
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 7:43pm
yea u can buy!!! i asked the same question
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 8:05pm
Your patience (Rs 575 - Rs 600) could have a lot of heart burning for us (notional losses). It is clearly a matter of luck to decide what price to get in at.
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Posted By: PrashantS
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 8:13pm
I think one should just have it in our profolio...no one stock makes lot of wealth...but i think every fall of 50 bucks is a buy...well thats what it is all about how badly one person needs it but i think everyfall is buy....
But basanji the thing is can we accumalte after it lists again or is it tough...coz the Tv18 which raghav behl is holding is going to be lucrative for the future ...
Your thoughts Basantji
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 8:18pm
Raghav will be holding Network 18 and not Tv 18 but the real value should be in Tv 18 - has 85% of internet and CNBC Tv18 channel (should print cash in times of DTH and CAS!!!)
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Posted By: PrashantS
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 8:21pm
Basantji we should hav eone section for discussing the effect of DTH and the companies which could benefit from it or have we discussed it earlier...
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Posted By: vishal.sahay
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 8:25pm
I agree with Mr. Prashant that we should have a discussion on DTN and CAS. Because according to me its a big thing for media companies like Zee,TV18,Hinduja TMT etc. So Basantji if you could enlighten with your knowledge on this topic it would be very helpful.
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 8:34pm
Yes, we have diuscussed it in the Tv 18 section I believe but in bits and pieces really..
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Posted By: PrashantS
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 8:36pm
Yes ,please basantji can we make a seperate topic and talk more on media stocks...could help a lot....
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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 9:35pm
TV18, Hinduja TMT etc. I think have been discussed in the respective categories friends.
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Posted By: PrashantS
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 10:12pm
But Shiva it is in bits an pieces.....better to have in one place...
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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 10:17pm
Allright sir. Up to Admin ji.
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 10:22pm
Yes we would have one.
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 9:04am
Hi Basant,
I'm just trying to confirm what you've said - you mean it will be delisted after Nov 17th? And then will relist on 24th, along with Network18?
Or will it just be in no delivery period from Nov 17th to 24th?
Originally posted by basant
The stock goes off trading from the close of trading hours of November 17th 2006. |
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 9:11am
so why do you think Raghav would do something like this?
If the real value lies in TV18(and i also agree on this), obviously he would also be looking at increasing his stake in this rather than in network18, isnt it? Is Network18 going to be something like a plain investment holding company like UB Holdings, or is it going to a mix of businesses and holdings, like maybe an AB Nuvo? This would perhaps help us in understanding why Raghav is shifting to Network18.
Originally posted by basant
Raghav will be holding Network 18 and not Tv 18 but the real value should be in Tv 18 - has 85% of internet and CNBC Tv18 channel (should print cash in times of DTH and CAS!!!) |
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 9:53am
Raghav had to do this to comply with regulatory reasons (details avalable on the NSE website). I am not aware of when they would relist 24th is the record date.
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 10:04am
ok thanks.
While we're on this, im hoping you can clear up my confusion of the meaning of record date? What exactly does it mean?
If it is indeed to get the names of all eligible people for the split shares, then why is it getting delisted on Nov 17th?
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 10:08am
If it is indeed to get the names of all eligible people for the split shares, then why is it getting delisted on Nov 17th?
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So that shares can flow from the brokers account to the clients accounts 7 days for that process to happen.
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 10:15am
But if they can do bonus and stock splits without delisting, then why do they need to delist for this.
Take another similar case with Mcdowell(now renamed United Spirits) - they have demerged all its investments into a seperate company called Mcdowell Holdings and we shareholders will be getting shares of MCD Holdings in the ratio of 1 share for every 5 shares of Mcd. The record date was Oct 24th and we will be getting the shares of Mcd holdings into our demat accounts directly very soon. But Mcdowell was never delisted/relisted for this.
So why is it necessary in the case of TV18?
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 08/Nov/2006 at 11:50am
An update to the stock exchanges:
Members of the Exchange are hereby informed that the trading in equity
shares of Television Eighteen India Ltd. shall be suspended w.e.f.
November 17, 2006 (i.e. closing hours of trading on November 16, 2006)
on account of Scheme of Arrangement.
Originally posted by basant
The stock goes off trading from the close of trading hours of November 17th 2006. |
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 12:13pm
what does this mean
"Television Eighteen India Ltd has informed that pursuant to the sanction to the Scheme of Arrangement by the Hon'ble High Court of Judicature at Delhi on July 20, 2006, Mr Raghav Bahl has transferred to Network 18 Fincap Pvt Ltd (previously known as SGA Finance and Management Services Pvt Ltd) on November 07, 2006, 3,00,000 shares as a block deal on the stock exchange at Rs 920/- per share. This brings the total number of 28,68,225 shares transferred to Network18 Fincap Pvt Ltd from Mr Raghav Bahl."
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 12:15pm
Nothing. Raghav is transferring his Tv 18 shares and will hold the co. through network 18 only.
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Posted By: tigershark
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 2:09pm
after the split and once the new co have been listed does the fii cap
still remain the same or can they buy more ,might be an elementary q
but pl answer
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 2:16pm
Also Basant, considering that Network 18 is going to more of a holding company and CNN-IBN, should we get out of it on listing day and move that money back into TV18?
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 3:34pm
This is a 51% holding company that can consolidate results also it will have the new channel Shop 18 plus the studio 18 business so it would not be given a low PE. In the case of UB Holding it does not hold 51% that is why I was bullish on http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69 -
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 3:55pm
Thanks Basant, so we can continue to hold it then. I still dont understand why Raghav has to exit his stake in TV18 and move completely into Network18. Dosent it make sense for him to hold on to the main stock? BTW, it is confirmed that AWAAZ comes under TV18 after the split, isnt it?
And BTW, my holding onto both Mcdowell and UB Holding has also bee paying off, both of them have moved up more than 40% in the last 4-5 weeks. 
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 4:17pm
Originally posted by tigershark
after the split and once the new co have been listed does the fii cap still remain the same or can they buy more ,might be an elementary q but pl answer |
You have raised a phenomenal point. Actually I was looking at this last night and my study tells me that an FII gap could be created.These are approximate figures since I just did the actual calculation on a calculator :
10 shares of Tv 18 will get 14 shares of the TV 18 after demerger and 12 shares of Network 18
Number of shares in Tv 18 - 21 million
FII holding 25%
FII shares .25 x 2.1 million = 5.25 million
Post demerger capital of Tv 18 = 52.4 million shares
Permissable FII limit = 9.97 million shares (19.03%of 52.4 million) - Due to cross holdings.
FII holding in demerged Tv 18 = 5.25 million x 14/10 = 7.35 million
Gap = 9.97 million - 7.35 million = 2.62million shares
Number of shares in Network Tv18 - 49.98 million
FII shares .= 5.25 million x 12/10 = 6.3 million
Permissable FII limit = 6.54 million shares (13.15%of 49.98 million) - Due to cross holdings.
Gap = 6.54 million - 6.3 million = .02 2million shares.
Therefore FII's could buy 2.62 million shares in Tv 18 and only .02 million in Network 18.
Irrespective of where FII's could buy I would prefer to hold both the companies. and based out of valuations we could think of selling one or the other.
Note: This is based out of inputs I received from the NSE website. I would wait for details from company to say this is confirmed since they could do a private placement of the shares Raghav is surrendering in favour of Tv 18 shareholders. But apparently this seems to be it.
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Posted By: tyler_durden
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 5:27pm
it missed 4 figure mark yet again. came closer to it by touchin 982
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 6:27pm
There was a block deal at Rs 1025 between 2 FII's for 72,000 shares. SO we hit 1k but some one else sold.
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Posted By: chic_1978
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 7:49pm
hi basantjee
would u advice to buy tv 18 at curret price ?
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Posted By: PrashantS
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 7:57pm
it is such an amazing thing is everyone wants a piece of this Company.... tough call really ...but i think if really want to hold it jsut buy little and look at other sectors...as profits important and not the stock.........but i think bsantji will give the best advice
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 10/Nov/2006 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by chic_1978
hi basantjee
would u advice to buy tv 18 at curret price ?
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We have been discussing this since it was at Rs 500 odd levels you should have got in then. It is already becoming skimmed milk and while it WILL go up from these levels I would not recommend buying.
The company is launching another channel (home shopping network) .This site will supplement it.
http://www.shop18.com - www.shop18.com
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 12/Nov/2006 at 11:42am
Basant,
I want to add ADLABS to my portfolio along with TV18, and while looking into it, i just did a small comparision of the mcap of the companies in the media sector, based on Friday's closing.
ZEETEL @330, mcap 13,621 cr. TV18 @936, mcap 1,969 cr. NDTV @242, mcap 1,476 cr. ADLABS @390, mcap 1,407 cr. BALTEL @164, mcap 1,071 cr.
Considering the mcap, and future prospects of these companies, i was wondering if you could list them in order of preference of buying, lets say for buying now and holing on for 18-24 months.
(UTV is probably missing from this list, you can add that in as well if necesary).
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 13/Nov/2006 at 12:21pm
That is very difficult from the point that some of them have gone up more then 50%. Still I would list them thinking that you own a few.
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Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 13/Nov/2006 at 1:00pm
Thanks Basant. Interesting that you have put NDTV above ZEE? Is this because of the management? Considering that ZEE will also be dermerging its business early next year, would it be a better bet than NDTV? Adlabs also is planning to demerge its radio business.
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