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Maharashtra Seamless – Seamless growth

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Topic: Maharashtra Seamless – Seamless growth
Posted By: basant
Subject: Maharashtra Seamless – Seamless growth
Date Posted: 22/Aug/2006 at 10:15pm

Maharashtra Seamless – Seamless growth

Maharashtra Seamless (CMP Rs 364.90) is India’s largest manufacturer of seamless steel pipes and tubes. The company’s product finds application in industries like Oil and gas, , boilers & heat exchangers, automotive, bearing and general engineering. . Maharashtra seamless has a very wide and diversified client base, which includes IOC, ONGC, BPCL, GAIL (India), OIL, BHEL and L&T The company belongs to the O.P Jindal group which is satisfactory when viewed in terms of corporate governance and shareholder friendliness..

65% of the company’s revenues are derived from seamless pipes while the balance the balance comes from the sale of ERW (electric resistance wielded) pipes. These pipes are used in fencing, line pipes, oil country tubular, water and gas conveyance, structural, engineering purpose. Globally there has been a tremendous increase in the production of ERW steel pipes due to growing demand in oil & gas industry, infrastructure and automobile usages.

The next few years is expected to see robust demand for the company’s products; the growth in the oil and gas exploration and distribution sector coupled with the proposed spending outlay on social infrastructure would be the major growth catalysts.

By the end of 2007 the company is expected to put on stream its plant for the manufacture of round steel billets. This would be a backward integration step and would significantly add to the operating margins and contribute to the bottom-line.

Some time back a joint venture agreement was executed with Hydril of US for the manufacture of high-end pipes. This JV shall source its requirements exclusively from Maharashtra Seamless. The customers that this JV would cater to would be both the domestic and the international oil companies.

Financial Snap shot

C.MP

Rs 364.90

Market Capitalization

Rs 2200.35 crores

Sales FY 07 Q1

Rs 338.79 crores

Net Profit FY07 Q1

Rs 60.03 crores

EPS FY 08 (E)

44.00

PE

8.3 times

RoE (2001 -2006)

Near 30%

 Over the past few years the company has consistently grown its earnings  and the trend is expected to continue in future also. The RoE has been hovering at close to 30% for the past five years. A five year consistent RoE of 30% for a manufacturing company is very difficult to achieve. Companies achieve this ratio for a couple of years and then revert back to their 12 %– 16% range but Maharashtra seamless has been a real exception on this count.

Over the years the company has been able to push its operating margins at close to 28%. This has been achieved Inspite of the rising input costs indicateing the company’s ability to pass on costs to the customer.

On August 11, 2006, the company allotted 687,376 number of equity shares of Rs 5 each at a premium of Rs 248.34 per share against conversion of Zero Coupon Foreign Currency Convertible Bonds (FCCBs). Post conversion the paid-up equity share capital of the company has increased to 6,03,00,110 equity shares of Rs 5 each, as of date.

Recommendation : India’s largest pipe manufacturer available at a market cap of Rs 2200 crore a PE of less then 10 with an RoE at close to 30%  is a buy at present levels. In case of any decline (fundamentals remaining same) investors should aggressively keep adding. In times to come the laying down of gas pipelines across the country could significantly benefit the company as could the demand from the other areas of the oil and gas sector.



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Posted By: reema
Date Posted: 30/Aug/2006 at 11:13am
Company informed NDTV today  that it is getting into an acquisition; has passed on input cost and is bidding for tenders worth Rs 1000 crs.

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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 11/Oct/2006 at 10:31pm

Maharashtra Seamless is looking at a robust demand for its products during this year. The company also informed that it is sitting at an order book of over Rs 550 crores and  is planning to increase the installed capacity of 7" OD seamless pipes to  150,000 tons from 125,000 tons)  and 14" OD pipes to 175,000 tons from 100,000 tons).

 

A 50,000 ton coating plant is also being set up. All these capacity expansion programs have been funded and no further equity dilution is forthcoming except for the FCCB conversion.

 

The company stated that the benefits of this expansion shall be available from Fy 08 onwards

 

At Rs 374 the stock trades at a PE of less then 9 times for FY08E (EPS of Rs44) and remains a compelling buy for medium to long term investors.



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Posted By: akash
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 8:14pm
Sir,
Dont u think the type of industry in which Maharastra Seamless are operating involves a lot of raw material price hike risk (becuase of clyclic nature of steel,aluminium price). So,dont u think it will be very demanding to give a very high pe ratios of 10 to this stock since all the stock related to commodity gloablly trade at pe of 5-7 though exceptions will be there but still the avearge hungs around these levels. You can say that company involves only manufacturing but still the input material remains dependent on it and also with Chinese comapny getting into market the impact on margins could be large. Plz correct me if i am wrong. 


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 10:15pm
Yes Maharashtra seamless does suffer from commodity price swings but then they have been able to pass on the raw material cost increases (reflected through operating margin expansion). So while it would not get a PE of 20 times a PE of 12-15 looks OK since the growth is about 35% plus over the next 3 years. Also the company has held on to its position very well.

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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 30/Oct/2006 at 10:06pm
For the September quarter the company reported an increase in sales of 67% to Rs 346.48 crores from Rs 207 crores while net profit rose 119.18% to Rs 62.18 crores from Rs 28.37 crores in the corresponding period of the previous year.
 
The expansion in operating margins to 26.58% from 20.77% could have been initiated due to a fall in raw material costs.The company seems to be growing as per plan.
 
 


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Posted By: vishal.sahay
Date Posted: 01/Dec/2006 at 10:02pm

Basantji could you plz what PE should be given to Maharastra Seamless?



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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 01/Dec/2006 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by basant

Yes Maharashtra seamless does suffer from commodity price swings but then they have been able to pass on the raw material cost increases (reflected through operating margin expansion). So while it would not get a PE of 20 times a PE of 12-15 looks OK since the growth is about 35% plus over the next 3 years. Also the company has held on to its position very well.
 
Said this before.


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Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 06/May/2007 at 10:12pm
I am considering adding Maharashtra Seamless to my portfolio. At the current CMP (Rs. 573), does it still make sense to enter the stock? How does the PEG ratio look?
 
How has MahaSeam managed to maintain such high margins when compared to others like Man Industries, Welspun Gujarat, JSW Pipes etc? What is their secret?


Posted By: snehaldani
Date Posted: 08/Oct/2007 at 10:38pm
Considering the pedigree of the management, the fact that funds to the tune of 320 crores are lying in bank account since a year ( out of the proceeds of the fccb issue ) awaiting the acquisition by the company of an appropriate candidate or setting up of a green field vertical integration project of mfg. billets, coupled with the fact that the company has increased its installed capacity of seamless tubes from 2,25,000 TPA to 3,50,000 TPA provide enough comfort to add more shares at around the price of 500 to 520.

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Posted By: paras
Date Posted: 09/Oct/2007 at 3:54pm
Basantji
We have welspun gujarat also in the same space, which do you think can do better?


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 09/Oct/2007 at 4:02pm
No idea on Welspun but this one is a nice bet to make.

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Posted By: deepinsight
Date Posted: 11/Oct/2007 at 4:06pm
Basantji: In this case what primarily drives your interest?
A) Business demand/fundamentals
B) Management quality
C) Financials 


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Posted By: Julian
Date Posted: 12/Jan/2008 at 10:52pm
This is my first message. Maharashtra seamless deals mostly in seamless pipes as differentiated  from other players. As seamless pipes have higher margins, this is the reason for the extraordinary RONW for this player. They have acquired a plant in Romania which is proposed to be shifted and production started in 2 years from India. A speciality of this plant is the drill pipe facility which is having strong demand. Around 25% of seamless pipes in use in the country are being imported and thus there is good growth possibility for this player. Company has been enjoying good RONW of  above 25% since 2001, (when the steel cycle had not yet started, and hence not a cyclical stock) a record enjoyed only by a handful of companies. This RONW has been acheived with little debt and dividend payout ratio of below 10%. The MD of this company is only about  34 years old and the present record shows great promise, for long years to come. Great performance can be expected in the next financial year and as per my estimate, the stock should double in 3 years time, from present price of 600 Rs.. I should however inform you that 15% of my holdings are in this stock and plan to accumulate more at 450-500 range. Management quality and financials are so good that one can acquire this company by reading the balance sheet alone. A problem with this company is that they dont send annual reports unless you personally ask them, and promoters start accumulating shares, when share price drops, instead of initiating share buyback. Demand details are hazy beyond 3 years, unless management comes out with solid plans for import substitution. I decided that you are a good web site since you have highlighted this stock.


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 12/Feb/2008 at 7:37pm
With reference to the earlier announcement dated January 31, 2008, Maharashtra Seamless Ltd has informed BSE that in view of the current turmoil and prevailing volatile capital market conditions, the Board of Directors has decided to defer the holding of an Extra Ordinary General Meeting to consider and approve, inter alia, the allotment of warrants to the Promoters of the Company.
 
Link:http://www.bseindia.com/qresann/news.asp?newsid={11179BA7-0425-4F66-8D0B-7257F8411EE8}
 
Ouch aisa bhi hota hain!
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: johnnybravo
Date Posted: 12/Feb/2008 at 11:31pm
Capital markets are supposed to be a over done reflection of the economy, however more and more people these days look at capital markets to get the real image!
just my 0.2 paise (after all, these days cents are not that trustworthy)

Welcome back kulman sir!


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 12/Feb/2008 at 7:12am
This happened with PVR - promoters get scared of taking up the warrants.

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Posted By: bub100
Date Posted: 13/Feb/2008 at 4:16pm
but they are buying from the mkt
as it is good time increase the holding



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Posted By: Mr. V
Date Posted: 21/Apr/2008 at 10:38pm
The share price has fallen to 280 levels. Its probably time to revisit the business prospects and the financials. Maybe its a great value+growth buy.


Posted By: vamsikrishnaa
Date Posted: 01/May/2008 at 11:03am
BasantJi..It is still hovering around 295 levels, Can it be accumulated with a 1 year horizon?


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 01/May/2008 at 11:05am
The scope is really big. But it had a forex scare which to me seems built into the price.

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Posted By: snehaldani
Date Posted: 02/May/2008 at 2:46pm

Basantji, you are right, it had forex scare. However, as the events turned out, what had happened, as understood by me was this : The company was holding forex holdings ( proceeds out of fccb issue unutilised for a full period of more than a year ) in possibly US $.

With the depreciation of US $, the company incurred mark to market losses of Rs.24.03 crores on its actual balances held in US $ as was clarified by the company in its notice to BSE on 27.02.08. This is the loss due to appreciation of the Indian Rupee and not because of forex derivative.

Since the market price refused to react positively to the news of absence of forex derivative losses, probably, the company , once again, by its notice to BSE dt. 03.04.08 specifically has confirmed that the company does not hold any derivative exposure and does not have any mark to market losses as on that date. In fact, even the mark to market loss on 31.12.07 seems to have reduced to Rs.18.83 crores as on 31.03.08.
 
I agree with you that the stock is available at a reasonable value at the current market price of around 290. It seems that the market is disappointed with the absence of trail blazing growth in top and bottom line that this company was famous for in the last one year and that disappointment from growth seems to be worrying the market. However, the management is of proven calibre and sooner rather than later, the company would revisit the growth trajectory, so I believe.


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Posted By: Mr. V
Date Posted: 02/May/2008 at 1:04am

Very commendable on the management's part to come out with the press release and clarify the Forex derivatives rumours.

FY08 EPS was slightly lower than FY07 due to rising raw material prices. Cheaper chinese imports have also been a concern especially in ERW pipes segment but the company is focussing more on the specialised seamless pipe segment where price cutting from chinese imports are much less.

The backward integration project for steel billets has also been delayed by 2-3 years and has impacted its plans. The plant was initially going to be set up in Orissa but due to land allocation/rehabilitation problems , MSL has decided to move it to Maharashtra.
 
At a TTM PE ~ 9, all the bad news seem to have been priced in.


Posted By: nannu_68
Date Posted: 30/Nov/2009 at 7:50pm
What happened to this one? Its been lying low for a longtime. Romanian shift should be completeing soon. Can we start looking at it now, before the rush begins!!Embarrassed

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Posted By: hkumar
Date Posted: 30/Nov/2009 at 10:18am
The company seems to be going through a margin squeeze, it made 340 crore of profit on Sales of 1500 crore in 2007 and about the same profit on sales of around 2200 crore in 2009.
 
Please comment if any body knows the reason for this squeeze? Moreover any inputs on initiatives taken by the company to improve it.
 
That may be reason of stock underperforming the Sensex in last 2-3 years.


Posted By: subu76
Date Posted: 08/Feb/2010 at 12:15pm
Maharashtra Seamless: credit rating upgraded.
 
I'm kind of kicking myself for not buying this when it's dividend was 4.5% + and PE was about 3-4. I remember seeing this company closely as it had one of the highest long term ROEs amongst Indian companies (as per an Outlook Profit article)
 
Updates since then:
1. An industry insider was telling me that Maha Seamless while being a good company does not have the capacity to build long pipes and hence lose out in a lot of contracts (unlike Punj Lloyd's pipe company or Welspun)
 
2. Their ROE seems to be going down year after year ... something that hkumar alluded to above


Posted By: Prasham
Date Posted: 09/Feb/2010 at 12:28pm
Bad News: Since last 3 years this stock has consistently underperformed the Sensex/Nifty by major margin.

Good News: In a recent press release of the company, it announced that Crisil and ICRA have upgraded its credit rating from AA to AA+...

Checkout: http://www.moneycontrol.com/stocks/stock_market/corp_notices_details.php?autono=310523 - http://www.moneycontrol.com/stocks/stock_market/corp_notices_details.php?autono=310523

It has got some large export orders and Q4 results may have better figures owing to this face.

SO IS IT THE RIGHT TIME TO START INVESTING IN THIS COUNTER? WHAT COULD BE 2-3 YEAR TARGET?

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Posted By: ramsey123
Date Posted: 16/Mar/2011 at 3:32pm
Basantji and TEDdies,
 
The current price for Maharashtra Seamless looks highly undervalued. Are you aware of any specific reasons for this?
 
In my opinion it looks like a great value buy at the current price. Your thoughts?
 
Thanks,
Ram.


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 16/Mar/2011 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by ramsey123

Basantji and TEDdies,
 
The current price for Maharashtra Seamless looks highly undervalued. Are you aware of any specific reasons for this?
 
In my opinion it looks like a great value buy at the current price. Your thoughts?
 
Thanks,
Ram.


Cheap stock that has always remained cheap.



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Posted By: nav_1996
Date Posted: 16/Mar/2011 at 4:12pm
If some one is looking for a cheap stock, why don't you look at SJVN. It quotes at a PE of 9, ROE of 15%+ and div yield of 4%. So, it is cheaper than a FD and plan to triple their capacity in next 7-8 years. Even if they literally don't do anything else they will earn above returns for next 30 years or more. They don't have to bother about selling, economy, competition and so on.


Posted By: ramsey123
Date Posted: 16/Mar/2011 at 9:53pm
It's really strange...the competitive advantages it has are great. The future potential looks very positive. Very baffling!



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