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Topic: Can India become major player in ship-building
Posted By: manishdave
Subject: Can India become major player in ship-building
Date Posted: 11/Aug/2006 at 4:17am
Ship-building is basically heavy engineering. India has vast pool of inexpensive engineering skill and labor. India has competitive advantage in steel. Those are two most important things required for ship-building.
Ship-building shifted from US to Japan to Korea. Looks like Korea will loose because of cost. Will it shift to china and India?
 
Recently L&T got some orders even before having setup. Bharti ship and ABG heavy are getting big orders. Adani group planning to go into ship-building.
 
Obvious winners are Bharti ship/ABG. Other company that can gain is Wartsila.  They make engines for Shipping and parent wants to make indian company as manufacturing hub for certain products.
 
What other industry/company can gain directly?



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Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 11/Aug/2006 at 8:58am
And beleive you me, shipping as an industry will be a sector to watch in the coming years.My only concern for Indian Shipbuiders is that they have to in-build the steel price rise into their cost equation. also, China is having more and more Shipyards along its coast.Also, the korean giants like daiwoo and  Hyundai are not to easy players to overcome.Pressure Vessels manufacturers will also be another set of beneficiaries.


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 03/Sep/2006 at 3:19am

The International Maritime Organization’s decision to either scrap all single hull structure oil tankers or convert them into double hull structures by 2010 has revived the interest in the shipbuilding sector across the globe, as the pie at stake is worth $250bn. Growth in overall world trade and rising demand from sectors like naval force, coastguard and customs has also created an essential requirement for ship repairing and refitting facilities as well as for ship building as a whole.

Companies like Bharati Shipyard, ABG Shipyard have plenty of orders on hand enough for the next 3/4 years. L&T also has bagged good orders for their new venture in this sector.
 
This sector seems like a good bet for next 2/3 years as Baltic Freight futures point to bullish sentiment. My guess is that Bharati Ship & ABG Shipyard would be multi-baggers from hereon, as their is visibility in growth besides this sector would get re-rated like engg/construction to command higher P/Es.


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 04/Sep/2006 at 8:07am
I read some where that all the mjor international ship building yards are booked till 2009. So Bharti and ABG should be doing very well. Makes sense to own from a longer term perspective.

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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 10/Sep/2006 at 3:27am
Shipping yards across the globe are booked till 2009. Over 32 per cent of the existing global fleet consists of single-hull tankers, which the IMO wants to phase out to control pollution. Read further on this link:
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=104258&leftnm=1&subLeft=0&chkFlg - http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=104258&leftnm=1&subLeft=0&chkFlg =
 
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=104258&leftnm=1&subLeft=0&chkFlg -  


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 10/Sep/2006 at 8:06am

Good link.While this news could be good for the ship builders it is certainly going to "hit" the shipping companies GE SHipping/Shipping corp. of India.



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Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 10/Sep/2006 at 8:48am
Well, Basant, this is no new news.Do bother to check the BDI Indices and the tanker rates in USD/day which the tanker marlet is commanding...
 
Remember, what Ricardo said:
 
Corn is High not because rent is high... rent is high because Corn is high.
 
same is happening in the shipping market. The shipping rates are si very lucrative that the companies want to have as many ships as possible.The shipping companies are doing exceedingly well, and you simply wait for the results to see that...


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 11/Sep/2006 at 9:04pm
http://business-standard.com/common/storypage_c.php?leftnm=10&autono=104195 -
 
http://business-standard.com/common/storypage_c.php?leftnm=10&autono=104195
 
FINANCIALS
FY06 (Rs crore) Bharati
Shipyard
ABG
Shipyard
Net sales 260.05 541.74
Y-o-Y growth 25.00 44.00
OPM 20.93 26.00
Net profit 51.07 83.68
Y-o-Y growth 87.00 87.00
NPM 19.64 15.45
P/E  14.20 15.60
P/E 07 11.50 12.50
P/E 08 8.00 10.50
Order book/ Sales 6.92 4.25
 
Looks like these two would be multi-baggers in the making. Market would eventually give them multiples like construction/infrastructure sector.
 
Basantjee, Bharati Shiyard's promoters are from IIT background.


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 11/Sep/2006 at 9:22pm

I would back an IIT/IIM with my last penny!



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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 11/Sep/2006 at 9:26pm
Please make an exception...that technical chartist from Pune, surprisingly he has both IIT & IIM background !!

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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 11/Sep/2006 at 9:31pm
Oh God!

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Posted By: nav_1996
Date Posted: 15/Sep/2006 at 2:46am
I read some where that ship-building sign back to back contract for major raw material like steel as soon as they get an order. If that be the case I feel that both ABG and Bharati are really good investment opportunities where risk reward is investors favour.

Apart from replacement of existing vessels, world trade in increasing at healthy pace thus generating fresh demand.

Also India's share in ship-building is very low and considering the fact PSU shipyards are not really aggressive, L&T, Bharati and ABG may end up with lion's share.


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 16/Sep/2006 at 12:12pm
Yes, I have been in touch with these shipyards's management. They are fairly (& naturally) hedged against raw materials as well as forex. Forex also, because they import key raw materials and export most of the ships.
 
The story however will play out in the long term.....delivery period of vessels is in years. The one who is patient will definitely get rewarded with them.
 
Bharati Shipyard is venturing into building oil rigs & has got first order from GE Shipping's offshore arm.
 
Government presently gives 30% subsidy for export of ships of certain sizes, which is valid till July 2007. The rumour is that it will be xtended for further 5 years. If not, then then this industry has asked for infrastucture status for shipbuilding, which I understand will be equally or more beneficial.


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 03/Nov/2006 at 8:15am
Both ABG as well as Bharati Shipyard have posted (optically) good earning numbers for 2Q FY07.
 
Would request members to have a close look.
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 27/Jan/2007 at 11:56pm
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage_c_online.php?leftnm=11&bKeyFlag=IN&autono=20051 - L&T starts ship-building at Hazira
Our Web Bureau / Mumbai January 27, 2007
Larsen & Toubro (L&T) has laid the keel for the first ship within 17 weeks of commencing operations at its ship-building yard at Hazira near Surat, Gujarat.

The 180-tonne keel block - the heaviest-ever by an Indian shipyard - was placed on the erection bay by Meindert Van Genderen, director, Rolldock, Netherlands in the presence of A M Naik, chairman & managing director, L&T.

According to a release issued by L&T to the BSE today, keel laying - an important milestone in ship-building - represents the joining of the modular components of the ship and signals the commencement of assembling the hull.

Genderen reiterated their trust and confidence in L&T's capabilities and commitment to the project.

Naik said ship-building represented a major thrust area for the company with the Hazira shipyard marking the beginning of the strategic initiative. Detailed expansion plans for the Hazira shipyard involve expanding capacity to construct eight vessels up to 20,000 dwt per annum.

L&T had marked its entry into the field in April 2006 by securing an order from the Netherlands-based Rolldock (earlier Zadeko Ship Management) for four heavy lift semi-submersible cargo ships.
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 16/Feb/2007 at 11:57pm
http://equitymaster.com/detail.asp?date=2/15/07&story=1 - Global shipbuilding: An overview (source:equitymaster.com)
 
The global shipbuilding industry has been on an upswing over the past few years. Strong demand and capacity constraints has led to the world’s shipping order book to sales ratio increase to 3.5 times in 2005, higher than the historical average of 2.1 (between 1982-02).

Shipyards remain fully booked in the medium-term with the delivery period, for the first time since the seventies, extending beyond three years. Since it is the waiting period, which new building prices closely follow as compared to freight rates, the strong new building prices are expected to be maintained over the medium-term. Also, the ships that have been currently booked at higher prices will have full impact on the shipbuilder’s profitability in the next two to three years.

The global shipbuilding industry is primarily dominated by conventional vessels like tankers, bulk-carriers and container vessels.

Demand drivers: Being a global industry, the fortunes of the shipbuilding industry are closely tied to the growth in world trade. The demand for ships can be classified into incremental demand and replacement demand. In case of incremental demand, growth in world trade increases the demand for vessels, which in turn leads to higher freight rates. The resultant higher freight rates trigger the demand for new vessels from the shipping companies. In case of replacement demand, the demand for vessels is dependent upon the age profile of the existing fleet as well as steel prices. Every ship has a useful life (25 to 30 years) after which it becomes uneconomical to operate them. Replacement demand is triggered when ships approach the end of their useful life. Higher steel prices also decide the extent of replacement demand as they lead to an increase in value of ships to be scrapped.

Major players in the shipbuilding countries: Global market environment in the shipping industry has undergone fundamental changes over the last two decades.  Shipbuilding being a labour intensive industry, the cost of labour plays an important determinant in a country’s competitiveness position vis-ŕ-vis others. With rising labour cost, shipbuilding activities have slowly moved away from ‘high wage’ Europe and US to low-wage Asia. With the rising labour cost in the late 1980s, Japan was forced to scale down its shipbuilding activities and Korea emerged aggressively. In the past few years, China is taking away an increasingly larger market share of the new building contracts.

The shipbuilding industry is currently dominated by the Japanese and Korean shipyards. In 2005, they together accounted for 73% of the total world output (in number terms), followed by China at 13.5% and European Union (EU) at 7%. The largest shipbuilding companies in terms of capacity are Hyundai Heavy Industries, Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering and Samsung Heavy Industries (all Korean).

The conventional large vessel segment like tankers, bulk carriers and container vessels is dominated by Korea, Japan and China. China’s ambitions to become the world’s largest shipbuilder for conventional vessels has resulted in Korea taking a back-seat in this segment and instead focus on new ship development areas like super-large LNG carriers. Japan has been struggling to maintain its market share due to dwindling workforce and higher labour cost. It is currently investing in technology to construct conventional vessels in a short period and thereby compete with China in this segment. Realising its inability to compete with Asian countries in the conventional segment, the EU shipyards have been focusing on ‘Passenger Vessels’ and ‘Offshore Vessels’ segment.

Next article in this series will cover an analysis of the Indian shipbuilding industry.
 


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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 16/Feb/2007 at 1:38am
Nice article Kalam an ji.
 
 
Opps, Kulman jee.


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 26/Feb/2007 at 9:11am
http://www.equitymaster.com/detail.asp?date=02/26/07&story=3 - - : An overview (source:equitymaster.com)

In an http://www.equitymaster.com/detail.asp?date=2/15/2007&story=1 - earlier article , we provided our subscribers with an overview of the global shipbuilding industry. In this piece, we will cover the domestic shipbuilding industry and analyse as to how it compares with other shipbuilding nations.

Major players: India has around 32 shipbuilding yards belonging to the public and private sector. Major public sector yards include Mazgaon Dock, Cochin Shipyard, Hindustan Shipyard, and Goa Shipyard, while large private shipyards include ABG Shipyard, Bharati Shipyard and Adani.

The Indian shipbuilding business was traditionally dominated by inefficient PSU shipyards. Thanks to their high cost of manufacturing, poor delivery and quality standards, India could not capitalise on its low cost labour advantage. However, over the past few years, led by private shipbuilders, India has emerged as a key player in the offshore segment of shipbuilding.

How has the industry performed? The Indian shipbuilding business has entered the growth trajectory with their order-book witnessing a nine-fold increase in just four years. According to ‘i-maritime’, an Indian shipping consulting firm, the order-book of Indian shipyards has grown from Rs 15 bn in 2002 to Rs 137 bn in September 2006. Though India is an insignificant player in the global shipbuilding business, it has gained a strong foothold in the niche offshore segment. Led by private shipyards – ABG and Bharati – India has surpassed Norway in terms of order-book for OSVs (offshore supply vessels).

Offshore segment – Focus of Indian shipbuilders: Traditionally Singapore and Norway have been leaders in the offshore segment. However, over the past few years, India has emerged as one of the leading players in the OSV market, led by private shipyards. The success of the Indian shipbuilding industry has been due to availability of skilled labour at a lower cost. As can be seen in the table below, India compares favourably with other shipbuilding nations on the labour cost front. OSVs typically require higher degree of technological skill-set than conventional vessels like tankers, bulk carriers and container vessels. Though the cost of labour in China is lower than India, the focus of Chinese shipyards remains large conventional vessels. Moreover, large shipyards (in China) make it unfeasible to produce OSVs.

Country Labour cost per worker
(US$ per annum)
China 729
Indonesia 1,008
India 1,192
Phillipines 2,450
Thailand 2,705
Malaysia 3,429
Korea 10,743
Singapore 21,317
Source: Ministry of Commerce & Industry, Govt. of India

Future outlook: Since the focus of Indian private shipyards is the offshore segment, their prospects primarily depend upon the exploration and production (E&P) spending by the oil companies. Worldwide, the E&P spending continues to remain strong, driven by depleting oil reserves and high oil prices. Indian shipbuilders are also set to benefit from the huge replacement demand which is expected to come over the next few years. Globally, 73% of the Anchor Handling Tug Supply Vessel (AHTSV) fleet and 62% of the Platform Supply Vessel (PSV) fleet is more than twenty years old as majority of them were acquired during the oil boom witnessed in 1970s. Despite this fact, the current order book for offshore vessels (AHTS and PSV) forms only 10% of the current fleet, thereby indicating huge potential for Indian private shipyards.

Challenges ahead: As mentioned earlier, Indian shipyards have witnessed huge accretion in order-book over the past few years. Hence, timely execution and delivery would be the key for growth. Delayed and substandard deliveries can have a detrimental impact on the long-term prospects of the domestic industry as goodwill is built over a number of years. Substantial fall in crude oil price is another area of concern, since a significant slide in oil prices would lead to a cut in E&P spending by oil majors. As a result, the demand for offshore vessels will stand reduced.



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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 19/Mar/2007 at 10:08am
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2007/03/20/stories/2007032005850100.htm - Shipbuilding sector order books run full (source: BL)

Sitting on a combined order book valued at over $3,700 million, the ten shipyards in the country, including the State-owned facilities, are today literally struggling to keep pace with the flow of orders, both from the domestic as well as overseas markets. At the current pace of growth, it is expected that the domestic shipbuilding sector is well on its course to becoming a $20-billion industry by 2020.

This is in tune with the global order book position, which has more than doubled since 2002. For a long time hovering under the 100 million DWT mark till 2000, the global order book surged to 220 million DWT in 2006.

The growth in the shipbuilding space is also attracting financers and private equity investors, as is evident from the fact that ICICI Ventures recently made significant investments in Chennai-based Tebma shipyard, which is India's only shipyard to build offshore supply vessels. This will help the shipyards go in for significant expansions.

Says Mr Ramesh Singhal, Director of I-Maritime Consultancy: "With the current order books running full, there is a danger of over-capacity, in case the global shipbuilding industry slows down. Currently, Indian shipyards import machinery components and assemble them in India. It is expected that with increase in shipbuilding volume, global manufacturers would setup ancillary units locally and Indian shipyards would export ships as well as its components."

Export lead

Private-sector shipyards ABG, Pipavav and Bharathi Shipyards are at present leading the list, with an order book of $844 million, $740 million and $590 million respectively. State-run yards like Cochin Shipyard and Hindustan Shipyard are having orders worth $362 million and $314 million respectively. Interestingly, out of the total of 223 ships on order from the Indian yards, 152 ships (value $2,778 million) are overseas orders.

An analysis of the order books of the shipyards would reveal that private shipyards are mostly banking on export orders — out of their total orders share of $2,686 million, export orders account for almost $2,284 million. In the case of PSU shipyards, it is the other way around, with domestic orders accounting for $517 million out of their total share of $1,011 million.

The industry order book has mirrored a CAGR of 60 per cent in the last five years, with expectations being that it could notch up a CAGR of 30 per cent over the next decade.

A report by I-Maritime predicts that the shipbuilding industry will consolidate itself to get into building large cargo vessels, including container vessels and tankers, during the next five years and VLCCs, gas carriers, drill ships and semi-submersibles between 2012 and 17.



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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 30/Mar/2007 at 12:04pm

http://www.financeasia.com/article.aspx?CIaNID=48774 - - Singapore

 

Yangzijiang Shipbuilding, which is currently on the road to drum up interest for its Singapore initial public offering, has set the price range at S$0.70 to S$0.95 for a total deal size of up to S$943.4 million ($622 million).


Even at the bottom end of the range, this will be the second largest Singapore IPO in the past five years after Thai Beverage’s $866 million offering in May last year, and the third largest ever if one includes SingTel’s $1.5 billion listing in 1993. Some bankers argue that this deal is no longer a suitable benchmark, however, given it happened more than 13 years ago.


The indicative range values the Chinese shipbuilder at 11.3 to 15.3 times its estimated 2008 earnings, which equals a sizeable premium to its South Korean rivals, which are currently trading at an average of 8 to 9 times, but at a discount to its Chinese comps that trade at an average P/E ratio of 18 to 20 times.

 

Because of their lower overheads and labour costs, the Chinese shipbuilders are generally seen to deserve a premium, but the question investors will be asking themselves is - how much of a premium? Guangzhou Shipyard International, which is listed in both Hong Kong and Shanghai trades at a 2008 earnings multiple of about 26 times in Hong Kong after it doubled its profit last year amid strong demand for new ships.

 
Yangzijiang notes that it also benefits from the preferential interest rates provided by government-backed banks with the aim of promoting the domestic shipbuilding industry. China is the third largest shipbuilding country in the world in terms of compensated gross weight, according to Clarkson research.

“We believe this growth is in part due to the global trend of outsourcing manufacturing to companies in (China), as well as the increasing demand by Chinese carriers for domestically built vessels,” the company says. The latter is largely due to the supportive government policy.
 

Jiangsu-based Yangzijiang is also benefitting from this demand and as of the end of last year, the company had a visible order backlog of approximately $2.8 billion for vessels that are due to be delivered between 2007 and 2010. Since then, it has received new orders with an aggregate value of $229 million for four container ships and four mini bulk carriers, which it expects to deliver in 2009 and 2010.

In 2006, the company’s net profit rose 60% to Rmb454.3 million ($58.2 million) on the back of a 52% rise in revenues to Rmb2.32 billion ($298 million).

“Shipyards and other infrastructure developments in China are the flavour of the month and this is a supply/demand story that is benefitting from the fact that there aren’t enough ships around,” says one observer

 
However, some analysts believe the shipping cycle is past its peak and that there may actually be some oversupply once all the ships currently under construction are put in the water over then next two to three years, which could lead to a slowdown in the order flow in the future.
 

A key part of the company’s growth strategy is to build ships at increasingly larger sizes, including containerships with load carrying capacities of 6,000 twenty-foot equivalent units (TEU) and above, Panamax and Aframax chemical tankers and bulk carriers of 100,000 deadweights tonnes (DWT) and above. “We believe there is greater demand for these larger vessels and that they will provide us with better profit margins than smaller vessels,” the company says.

The company currently has orders for 12 containerships of 4,250 TEU in size and ten bulk carriers of 92,500 DWT each.

To achieve this target, Yangzijiang, which is already the leading privately-owned containership builder in China, is currently constructing a new shipyard through a majority-owned subsidiary that is expected to be completed in October 2007. Once finished, the company will move all its shipbuilding operations for containerships above 2,500 TEU and bulk vessels above 55,000 DWT to the new yard, leaving the building of smaller ships at the existing yard.

The company will also expand into the manufacturing of offshore vessels and oil tankers as it believes there will be increased demand for these due to the increased investment by major players in the offshore oil and gas industry. Offshore vessels are used for transportation and delivery of drilling supplies, fuel, food and water to offshore drilling rigs and fixed or floating platforms. They can also provide processing of oil and gas.

 
Part of the proceeds from the offering will be used towards the Rmb1.5 billion ((192 million) construction cost of the new terminal. Some of it will also go towards the acquisition of an additional 25% in the subsidiary that holds the new yard to a total of about 75% and for the repayment of a loan.
 

The company is aiming to sell 993 million shares, or 30% of its issued share capital, through the IPO that is arranged by UBS as the sole bookrunner. DBS is a joint lead manager and also the lead manager for the domestic portion of the sale.

Two thirds of the shares are new, while the remaining third will be sold by executive chairman Ren Yuanlin, who is also the founder of the group. There is a 15% greenshoe, which could boost the total proceeds to $715 million.

The final price is expected to be determined just after the Easter holidays around April 11.

 

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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 07/Apr/2007 at 11:07am
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/OPINION/Columnists/Swaminathan_A_Aiyar/Ship-building_Indias_next_star_industry/articleshow/1872044.cms - Ship-building: India's next star industry
Swaminathan S Anklesaria Aiyar
India has got mu-ch of the global outsourcing business for services, but very little for labour-intensive manufacturing.

Two major culprits are inflexible labour laws and the continuing reservation of many items for manufacture by small-scale industries. However, i see signs of one major labour-intensive industry shifting from Western countries and East Asia to India. This is ship-building and ship-repair.

With little fanfare, several corporations are building huge shipyards across the coast of India, from Kutch to West Bengal. Ship-building consists mainly of riveting of steel plates to form a vessel, followed by internal fittings. This cannot be done on an assembly line by robots. It has to be done manually by skilled welders and fitters.

Ship-repairing is even more labour-intensive and skill-intensive. Every repair job requires individual analysis and customised solutions. It involves less material and far more labour than ship-building.

India is well placed to supply cheap skilled labour that can compete with the best in the world. Yet, for decades ship-building has languished despite massive subsidies.

Why? Because, historically, the big shipyards — civilian and military — were inefficient public sector monopolies. A few private sector shipyards were licensed, but only for small vessels.

However, with the abolition of industrial licensing in the 1990s, new shipbuilders like Bharti Shipyard and ABG Shipyard came up. They faced difficult times when the Asian financial crisis led to the collapse of demand for ships. But the regional and world economy recovered sharply after 2003, and the demand for ships is now booming.

This has encouraged several companies to take the plunge and embark on construction of big shipyards, some of which will be world-scale.

ABG has set up a major shipyard costing Rs 1,600 crore at Dahej, Gujarat, and is flooded with orders worth over Rs 1,300 crore. It will build up to 25 ships a year, making it a major Asian player.

Sea King, owned by Nikhil Gandhi, is setting up a shipyard at Pipavav, Gujarat, to build ships of up to 300,000 deadweight tonnage (dwt), almost thrice as large as the biggest ships built by the government's Cochin shipyard. It is far cheaper to transport oil to deep-water Indian refineries using big tankers. Gandhi claims that his Pipavav Shipyard will be among the ten biggest in the world. It has bagged two advance orders worth $720 million to manufacture ships for Z Schifenbau of Germany and B F Shipping of Cyprus.

Takeover specialist PK Ruia, who in recent years has taken over Jessops, Dunlop, and Falcon Tyres, now proposes a mammoth shipyard at Haldia costing over Rs 3,000 crore. It will be among the biggest in the world, building 12 ships a year of Panamax size (the maximum size that can go thro-ugh the Panama Canal). The project will include ship-breaking and ship-repair units, as well as a mini-steel plant and captive power plant. It will employ as many as 16,000 workers, more than major auto manufacturers such as Tata Motors and Bajaj Auto.

The Adani group is setting up a Rs 1,000-crore shipyard at Mundra in Kutch, adjacent to its new deep-water port there. This can be expanded to rival the Pipavav shipyard.

Tata Steel plans a shipyard at its new coast-based plant in Orissa. Steel sheets and plates from its steel plant can go directly by conveyor belt to the shipyard, saving time and transport costs. Tata Steel has just formed a joint shipping line with NYK of Japan, and the shipyard will be a link between its steel and shipping business.

A major new development is the decision of the ministry of defence to source the bulk of its annual spending (around Rs 13,000 crore) from the private sector. This has been the main spur for L&T to expand its shipbuilding business, which includes warships. It is already building parts of submarines and soon plans to build entire submarines. Other private sector defence suppliers include the Tatas and Mahindras, both of whom could conceivably get into naval vessels and equipment.

Indian business is convinced that India has a major comparative advantage in ship-building that has been masked all these years by an inefficient public sector notorious for high costs and time overruns. The labour cost per worker in India is estimated at $1,192 per year, against $10,743 and $21,317 per worker in leading shipbuilding countries like South Korea and Singapore. Apart from skilled welders and fitters, India has world-class naval engineers and architects. These, along with top-class management, can make India a global power.

Ship-building was dominated by Europe and North America in the 19th and early 20th centuries. In the '60s Japan's cheap skills enabled it to become the top ship-builder. Soon afterwards South Korea , Taiwan and Singapore emerged as major builders. However, all these have now become high-income countries. So, ship-building is shifting to China.

Logically, it should shift to India too. China and India have the skills and cheap steel to make the best, cheapest ships.
 
 


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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 08/Apr/2007 at 12:16pm
Swamiji's article is very interesting...i look forward to his and Shobhaa De's column in Sunday Times...

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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Apr/2007 at 12:18pm
Swaminathan Aiyer is the brother of Madam's favourite boy "Mani Shankar Aiyer". The former holds a good amount of Alphageo shares.

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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 08/Apr/2007 at 12:28pm
I didn't know that....thanks..

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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 08/Apr/2007 at 2:45pm
Actually he holds about 50,000 shares.

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Posted By: kanagala
Date Posted: 17/Apr/2007 at 1:39am
Hi Basant sir,
What are chances of PE getting rerated in ABG/Bharti shipyard.  ABG is trading at 10 times of 08 earnings. It is expected to grow 30% CAR.


Posted By: kanagala
Date Posted: 17/Apr/2007 at 4:08am
While reading  RD chat transcript, came across following message

atit100: Hi Mr Damani, I want to ask about the shipbuilding sector in India. What are the prospects of Cos like ABG shipyard, Bharati Shipyard etc for the next 5 - 10 years. Also would these stocks be considered as cyclical stocks or do they belong to the capital goods sector? I ask since the PE ratios then would be different. Thanks

Ramesh Damani: cyclical at best..they are doing well but they do not have a long term competitive edge



Posted By: CHINKI
Date Posted: 18/Apr/2007 at 4:34pm
Kanagala, can u give me the link to see RD chat.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted By: kanagala
Date Posted: 19/Apr/2007 at 9:58am
http://moneycontrol.com/news/mgmtinterviews/chats/archives_new.php.
The above link have all the chat transcripts conducted by moneycontrol.com


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 24/May/2007 at 10:50pm

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/storyprintfriendly/0,4582,235036,00.html? - Japanese shipyards to invest US$409b to boost output by 10%

Korean shipbuilders also expanding with investment of US$1,930 billion

By DONALD URQUHART

Japanese shipyards have announced their first capacity expansion in 30 years, pumping in US$409 billion to boost output by 10 per cent, as shipyards around the world struggle to keep pace with rising shipbuilding demand.

Major Japanese shipyards like Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries, Kawasaki Heavy Industries and Mitsui Engineering and Shipbuilding are investing the equivalent of US$136 billion per shipbuilder up to 2009, aimed at meeting the surging demand.

While some of the capacity will be directed at the bulk carrier market, a rising domestic demand for liquified natural gas (LNG) carriers is also a key impetus, say industry analysts.

Korean shipbuilders are also ramping up expansion with investments of nearly US$1,930 billion, equivalent to US$643 billion per shipbuilder, according to a Kim Eng research report.

Because the global backlog has reached an average of 3.5 years - Japan 3.2 years, Korea 3.5 years and China 3.7 years - the Japanese capacity expansion will have little impact on the South Korean and Chinese yards, Kim Eng said.

Singapore yards are not impacted because of their niche specialisation, which, in the current environment of sustained high oil prices, means their focus is concentrated on the offshore oil and gas sector.

While shipbuilders the world over have enjoyed healthy profits due to the soaring demand from the buoyant shipping industry, price volatility of steel plates, now hovering around US$600 per tonne, has eaten into their profits.

Meanwhile, Chinese shipyards have outpaced their South Korean rivals in winning new shipbuilding orders in the first four months this year.

Chinese shipyards secured new orders totalling 8.5 million compensated gross tons (CGTs) for the January-April period - 20 per cent of total global orders - up 65 per cent year on year, according to Clarkson Research.

South Korean shipbuilders like Hyundai Heavy Industries and Samsung Heavy Industries received a combined 6.9 million CGTs in new orders for the period representing a 7 per cent increase, while Japanese yards notched 1.2 million CGTs, down 72 per cent from a year earlier.

With backlogged order books, analysts say the Japanese and Korean yards were unwilling to take new orders, while the rapidly expanding Chinese yards were more than happy to absorb the overflow.

South Korea, home to seven of the world's top 10 shipyards, maintained its ranking as the top shipbuilding nation in terms of annual volume of vessels built.

Korean yards built 3.2 million CGTs in the first four months of the year, nearly triple that of the Chinese yards' 1.2 million CGTs.

China, which is rapidly moving into higher value vessels including crude oil tankers, LNG carriers, container ships and offshore oil and gas rigs, is hoping to overtake Korea to become the world's largest shipbuilding country by 2015.

China is the second-largest builder of oil tankers with a 36 per cent global market share and the fourth country in the world after South Korea, Japan and Denmark to build 8,000 TEUs container ships.

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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 24/May/2007 at 7:51am
http://www.livemint.com/2007/05/25012821/ABG-Shipyard-to-expand-base-c.html - ABG Shipyard to expand base, capacity with Vipul acquisition  (live mint)
 
India’s largest private-sector shipbuilder, ABG Shipyard Ltd, has agreed to buy Vipul Shipyard Ltd, its neighbour at the Magdalla Port in Gujarat. The objective is to add capacity to build more ships in a booming global shipbuilding market.
 
The Mumbai-based ABG has signed a memorandum of understanding with Vipul to buy the latter’s Surat facility that will raise its shipbuilding capacity to 40 vessels from the existing 32. ABG is likely to pay between Rs50 crore and Rs100 crore to acquire the yard. ABG declined to disclose details of the deal, saying it “is constrained by some conditions put by the seller”.
 
ABG stock lost marginally, dropping 0.10% to close at Rs412.35 on the Bombay Stock Exchange on Thursday.
 
“This strategic acquisition is a step to augment our resources for further consolidation of shipbuilding capacity in the growing segments of offshore, coastal shipping and other avenues of shipbuilding,” said Dhananjay Datar, chief financial officer, ABG.
 
Increasing global economic activity and India’s booming economy have boosted demand for ships to transport goods. The rising oil exploration and production activities, too, have triggered demand for offshore vessels that provide marine logistical support to drilling rigs.
 
Global shipowners are building more ships at Indian yards as builders in maritime nations such as South Korea, Japan and China decline to entertain orders for building relatively smaller ships.
 
As a result, Indian yards such as ABG, Bharati Shipyard Ltd, Cochin Shipyard Ltd and Tebma Shipyards Ltd are looking to grab a higher share of the global shipbuilding market and capture the space vacated by the closure of yards in Europe and other developed countries.
Europe’s share of shipbuilding has slipped from 30% in 1995 to about 7% in 2006.
 
Local builders such as ABG and Bharati are building capacities by acquiring existing yards or building new ones. ABG, for instance, is also building a new yard at Dahej in Gujarat by investing Rs400 crore. Bharati is building a new yard in Mangalore that will add to its facilities located at Ratnagiri and Ghodbunder (Thane), both in Maharashtra. It also acquired Pinky Shipyard Ltd in Goa to boost capacity.
 
Tebma, which has a yard at Chengalpattu near Chennai, is building a new facility at Malpe, near Udupi in south Karnataka.
 
In a highly labour-intensive shipbuilding industry, India’s strengths lie in its low-wage structure and abundant supply of highly qualified personnel. India also has lower fabrication costs—a key element of costing in any shipbuilding activity, particularly for building larger ships. But the key factors affecting the Indian shipbuilding industry are design processes and productivity.
 
According to a study conducted by Mumbai-based maritime consultancy firm i-maritime, Indians take 300 hours to cut a tonne of steel. In comparison, China takes anywhere between 45 hours and 100 hours while Japan takes only 15 hours to complete the task.
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 25/Jun/2007 at 8:33am

L&T to dock shipyard project in Chennai

Engineering and construction major Larsen & Toubro Ltd (L&T) is expected to choose Chennai for its proposed integrated shipyard project, estimated to cost around Rs 2,000 crore.

According to industry sources, despite huge potential for ship building and fabrication in India, there was hardly any company in India which had the capabilities and size that of the companies in Korea and Japan.

“Given the buoyant economy and the increasing exports from India, L&T wanted to capitalise on the growing demand for ships not only from domestic companies but also from global companies,” the sources added.

Source: http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=168207 - Article in F.E.
 
 


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Posted By: vip1
Date Posted: 25/Jun/2007 at 11:36am

L & T which is already into Defence supplies might even venture out into Ships For the Navy in the Future .



Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 05/Jul/2007 at 7:52am
Shipbuilding firms lobby hard for subsidy extension
 
With 38 days left for a rich shipbuilding government subsidy that began in the mid-1990s to expire, Indian companies are mounting a vigorous public campaign to get the finance ministry, well known for its recent dislike of corporate sops, to agree to an extension.
 
The scheme, under which shipbuilders get a hefty 30% extra on every ship they build of a certain size or for the export market, has already been extended twice. The current five-year subsidy, introduced on Independence Day in 2002, is set to expire on 14 August.
 
Shipbuilders love the subsidy and the shipping ministry is also keen to see it continue, leaving the finance ministry as the remaining hurdle for a potential extension.
 
Builders claim that the subsidy has worked, at least in terms of the amount of new orders that the industry has received, though there is a global shortage of new ships.
 
In 2002, when the subsidy was last extended, Indian yards had orders worth Rs1,500 crore. “Today, Indian yards have about 220 ships on order, at an estimated worth of Rs15,000 crore,” says Ajit Tewari, chairman and managing director of the state-run Hindustan Shipyard Ltd.
 
Partly because of the attractive subsidy, shipbuilders, both existing and new ones, have lined up investments of about Rs10,000-15,000 crore to upgrade and modernize existing yards and set up new facilities to boost capacity. “If the subsidy is not extended, these investments will not materialize,” claims Tewari, who is also the president of the Indian Shipbuilders Association.
 
Originally, the scheme was meant only for public sector shipbuilding units, such as Hindustan Shipyard, Cochin Shipyard Ltd, Mazagaon Dock Ltd and Goa Shipyard Ltd. When it was extended for five years in 2002, the subsidy was also granted to all private yards, including ABG Shipyard Ltd, Bharati Shipyard Ltd and Tebma Shipyards Ltd.
 
“Subsidy is a key issue to shipbuilding in the country. Without the subsidy, it is not attractive to put up a shipyard,” said A.M. Naik, chairman and managing director of India’s largest engineering and construction firm, Larsen & Toubro Ltd (Larsen and Toubro), in an interview with Mint on Tuesday.
 
Larsen and Toubro plans to build the country’s biggest shipyard at Kattupalli in Tamil Nadu with an investment of more than Rs2,000 crore,though it has not firmed up the project pending a decision on the subsidy.
 
Indian builders are looking to grab a higher share of the international shipbuilding market and capture the space that was vacated by the closure of yards in Europe and other developed regions. India’s share in global shipbuilding is expected to be around 15%, or $22 billion (Rs88,000 crore), by 2020 from about 0.4% now, says a report prepared by consultancy firm i-maritime Consultancy Pvt. Ltd.
 
Source: News article http://www.livemint.com/2007/07/06003103/Shipbuilding-firms-lobby-hard.html - here on Mint
 
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P.S. ICICI Ventures have taken a stake in Tebma Shipyard. Maybe their IPO is in the offing.
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 09/Jul/2007 at 6:13pm
South Korean shipbuilder Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering Co yesterday said it had raised its 2007 target for new orders by more than half, owing to a boom in container shipping orders.

Daewoo said its order book is sufficient to keep its dockyards busy for than three years or more.

Source: News http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/shippingtimes/story/0,4574,240275,00.html? - here on BizTimes
 
The more busy they are, the better for Indian shipbuilders? Let's wait & watch...
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 21/Jul/2007 at 12:53pm
Shipping Ministry seeking 10-yr shipbuilding subsidy extension


Plea for sops

Shipbuilding firms say about 50% subsidy will be returned as taxes, duties on inputs in first few years.

KPMG studying the benefits of subsidy in terms of attracting investments, job creation.

Shipbuilding industry does not enjoy duty protection like other manufacturing segments.


The Shipping Ministry is trying to get a 10-year extension of the shipbuilding subsidy with a periodical review after five years or so even as the Finance Ministry fears losing an estimated over Rs 35,000 crore as subsidy for the orders won by the Indian industry over the next five years.

The payout of these subsidy would be spread over 10 years or so since Government subsidy accrues to the shipbuilders only when the ships are delivered — and orders for the next five years would extend for much beyond five years. At present, the Government provides a shipbuilding subsidy of 30 per cent, subject to certain conditions, that would end on August 14 this year.

Shipbuilding firms, meanwhile, point out that given the current level of taxes and duties on inputs for shipbuilding like steel-sheets, the industry would return almost 50 per cent of the subsidy benefits to the Government in the initial few years and would return more than the subsidy in subsequent years.

Source: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2007/07/21/stories/2007072150140700.htm - HBL news
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 23/Jul/2007 at 8:27am
India’s biggest private sector shipbuilders ABG Shipyard Ltd, Subhash Projects and Marketing Ltd, Zoom Developers Pvt. Ltd and Helicon Engineering Works are in the race to buy shipbuilding firm Alcock Ashdown (Gujarat) Ltd from the Gujarat government.
 
Alcock Ashdown, which has two shipbuilding and repair facilities in Gujarat, one each in Bhavnagar and Chanch. According to latest published results, the state-owned shipbuilder ended 2005-06 with a revenue of Rs111.77 crore and a profit of Rs3.54 crore.
 
Alcock Ashdown, which caters to the lower and middle segment needs of fleet owners, designs and builds seagoing grade steel vessels for various purposes as well as inland and coastal ships and boats in steel or fibre-reinforced plastics (FRP).
 
The firm’s Chanch yard has the largest dry dock on the northwestern coast of India with direct access to the sea.
A dry dock is a narrow basin or vessel that can be flooded to allow a load to be floated in and then drained to allow that load to come to rest on a dry platform.
 
Global shipowners are building more ships at Indian yards as builders in maritime nations such as South Korea, Japan and China are not accepting orders for building relatively smaller ships.
 
India’s share in global shipbuilding is expected to rise to around 15% or $22 billion (Rs88,600 crore) by 2020 from about 0.4% now, says a report prepared by consultancy firm i-maritime Consultancy Pvt. Ltd.
 
Source: http://www.livemint.com/2007/07/24011715/ABG-Shipyard-three-other-firm.html - Live Mint
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 01/Aug/2007 at 8:43am
This http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20602005&sid=aPK2YqIAbJlc&refer=world_indices - news from Bloomberg may be not relevant in Indian context, but it highlights what's happening globally.
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20602005&sid=aPK2YqIAbJlc&refer=world_indices - Korean Shipyard Shares Ride Wave of Record Container Orders
 
A rising tide of orders for containerships may lift shares of Hyundai Heavy Industries Co., Samsung Heavy Industries Co. and Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co. to record levels as a boom in the global shipping trade shows no sign of slowing.
 
``For shipbuilders, their earnings are transparent because you know what their order books are going to be like for the next few years,'' said Park, who owns shares of Hyundai Heavy and other shipbuilders and doesn't plan to sell any in the near future.

The South Korean companies, the world's three largest shipbuilders, are receiving premium prices for their vessels, fattening profit margins, while a growing backlog will keep their dockyards running at full capacity for years to come.

Bigger price tags for ships allow Hyundai and other shipyards to pass on rising steel costs to their customers. Dongkuk Steel Mill Co. increased the price of plates used to make ship hulls twice this year. Posco, Korea's biggest steelmaker, said in July it doesn't plan to follow suit. The metal accounts for about 20 percent of costs for shipbuilders.

 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 02/Aug/2007 at 6:47pm
http://www.bseindia.com/qresann/news.asp?newsid=%7bC4AE709E-9D00-4FA9-AAFC-AD6664713792%7d - Punj Lloyd Ltd has informed BSE that the Company has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) to invest Rs 403 crore for acquiring 25.1% stake in Pipavav Shipyard Ltd.

This is a strategic investment by the Company to support the growth of its business in the offshore sector. In view of the robust oil prices and the substantial E&P activities in the country, the opportunity for revamping existing offshore platforms and deploying new platforms by upstream oil and gas companies is expected to be significant. The proposed investment in PSL will provide the Company access to capabilities to serve this market more effectively.

PSL will provide the Company access to fabrication facilities for platforms, SBMs, rigs and jackets to exploit the opportunities in this sector. Punj Lloyd is currently executing the Heera Field Redevelopment project for ONGC. The facility at Pipavav Shipyard can also be used for fabrication of vessels for petrochemicals and refineries.

The Company expects to gain through this association given the increasing demand for offshore facilities in India and abroad and with the ongoing shortage of shipyard capacity in India and globally. Growth in the shipyard industry is expected to be over 30% per annum in the next few years."
 
 
 


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 02/Aug/2007 at 7:11pm
If it is a JV arrangement then it is Ok otherwise a 25% holding will have no effect on results as they would not be able to consolidate accounts.

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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 02/Aug/2007 at 7:15pm
Yes, in that case Punj Loyd would not be able to consolidate results.
 
The reason of the posting is to highlight the potential of the sector really.
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 07/Aug/2007 at 9:04am
L&T, Essar, Korean major STX keen on setting up shipyards
Indian shipping industry is set witness a lot of action. Shipping biggies like L&T, Korean major STX, Essar, Shapoorji Pallonji and Bharti Shipyard are keen on setting up two mega shippyards at a total cost of over $1.5 billion.

“A single shipyard can handle around 2 lakh dead weight tonnage which is the international standard. Japan and Korea are well equipped to handle such tonnage,” a government official said. The sites identified by the shipping ministry are Kakinada, Ennore and Tuticorn on the east coast and Mundra and Pipavav on the west coast.

The ship-building industry is soon expected to witness boom period as immense growth is happening in the oil and power sector.

"As the refining capacity in the countries increases the demand for crude oil will go up, leading to increased demand for tankers. More and more power generation capacity is being created, particularly thermal power, which will require more coal. As Indian coal has more ash content, coal will be imported in huge quantities, which will require more ships," said a shipping industry analyst.

To bring India at par with Korea and Japan will be a hard task for the government. "If Indian companies ally with Korean, Japanese or other technologically-strong companies, then India may be able to compete with Korea and Japan in the long run,” added the analyst.
 
Source: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/LT_Essar_Korean_major_STX_keen_on_setting_up_shipyards/articleshow/2263689.cms - ET news
 
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Another growth driver.......?
 
Ships over 25 years old to be barred from docking here
 
The government is charting out guidelines to bar entry of aged overseas ships into Indian coasts. Ships aged 25 years and above may soon be disallowed to dock at Indian coasts.

According to a shipping ministry official, 17,000 ships are overage in the world.
 
“The idea is to bring a threshold age for the ships. While we will target 25-year-plus ships in the beginning, later even 20-year-old ships will be targeted as the average age of a ship is 17 years,” the official said.

However, experts point out that the move of the government may have multi-dimensional impact. KPMG associate director Bivek Anand says, “The impact on shipping companies will be in terms of the need for expediting their fleet renewal/tonnage acquisition plans, since a number of existing vessels may not qualify on the age meter, for touching the indian coast.”

Many shipping companies globally (and in India) register their ships in countries where the regulatory framework governing the operations of ships, is more lenient and/or commercially more advantageous.

Source: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Transportation/Shipping__Transport/Ships_over_25_years_old_to_be_barred_from_docking_here/articleshow/2261174.cms - ET News
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 14/Aug/2007 at 7:38am
A much sought after and lucrative subsidy given by the Union government for building ships within India ended at midnight Tuesday. It is not clear whether the subsidy, with a current hefty price tag to the government of Rs600 crore, will be extended in its present form, reintroduced with modifications or even scrapped altogether.
 
The shipbuilding subsidy scheme, under which shipbuilders get 30% extra on every ship they build of a certain size for the local market and all ships for exports, has already been extended twice.
 
Shipyards taking new shipbuilding orders from Wednesday would no longer be entitled to any government support unless the scheme is extended in coming weeks and months with retroactive effect.
 
Partly because of the attractive subsidy, shipbuilders, both existing and new ones, have lined up investments of about Rs10,000-15,000 crore to upgrade and modernize existing yards and set up new facilities to boost capacity.
 
“In the global scenario, when the rest of the world is supporting or incentivizing shipbuilding, it is important that the Indian government also supports or incentivizes shipbuilding, either through subsidy or some other form such as infrastructure or SEZ (special economic zone) status,” says Dhananjay Datar, chief financial officer, ABG Shipyard Ltd, India’s largest private sector shipbuilding company.
 
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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 02/Oct/2007 at 9:21pm

http://www.marinelink.com/Story/GujaratFinalizingAmbitiousShipbuildingPolicy-209137.html - Gujarat Finalizing Ambitious Shipbuilding Policy

 

Gujarat, India’s top maritime state by cargo handled at state-owned ports, is finalizing a shipbuilding policy that has set an ambitious target to grab more than half of the country’s shipbuilding market by 2020, an official at the western state’s maritime regulator said.

The state will be the first in the country to have a separate policy on shipbuilding. A draft policy prepared by the government seeks to extend tax holidays to shipbuilding projects for five years.
 
The government also plans to offer power at concessional rates to entities setting up yards and exempt them from octroi. The government will lease land to such firms.
 
More than 20 firms have shown interest to set up shipbuilding facilities in the state with investment plans of about Rs11,000 crore , and with a potential for 100,000 jobs. Six firms, including India’s biggest private sector shipbuilder ABG Shipyard Ltd, SKIL Infrastructure Ltd and the Adani Group are in the process of building full-fledged yards at Dahej, Pipavav and Mundra ports respectively. ABG and Larsen & Toubro Ltd currently have facilities to build ships at Hazira.
 
http://www.marinelink.com/Story/Jindal-Shipyards-Teams-with-Korean-Co-for-Maritime-Park-209147.html - Jindal Shipyards Teams with Korean Co for Maritime Park
Tuesday, October 02, 2007

Jindal Shipyards, a part of the $8b OP Jindal group, is planning to rope in Korean Maritime Consultants (Komac) for setting up the country’s first maritime technology park, expected to draw investment worth $7.2b. The park, to be called India Maritime Technology Park, will come up near Dahej. It will be on lines of Chinese cluster model and will get SEZ status later on. The project will also house a maritime technology institute..

 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 06/Oct/2007 at 10:13pm
The http://www.marinelink.com/Story/TatastoLookatShipbuilding-209207.html - Tata group is looking at the possibility of entering the shipbuilding business even as India looks to boost its shipbuilding capabilities to meet growing global demand for cargo carrying ships.
 
The Tata group has shown interest in building a shipyard near Shivrajpur in Gujarat after the state government invited expressions of interest from private firms, according to a senior Gujarat government official.
 
Tata Steel Ltd makes steel, a key input for constructing ships. Typically, for making 10-15 ships in a year, a yard would require close to 70,000 tonnes of steel, and steel makers such as Tata Steel, Essar Steel and Jindal Steel are now eyeing the shipbuilding business because the steel they make can also be utilized for constructing ships at their own yards.
 
 


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Posted By: khokan
Date Posted: 21/Oct/2007 at 1:11am
Dear http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=127&FID=39 - kulman ,
 
As we know that there is a boomin the field of ship design/ building globally also in india. and regarding that i have few queries hope you would like to reply to them, and they are as follows:-
 
1) is it possible for you to mention the reasons why there is booming?
2) How long will this booming continue?
3) Too many new employee are getting engaged in this field due to this boming. but, wht will happen when there will be no booming? will our ship building industry able to provide job to them with same sort of salary?
 
thanx in advance for ur reply


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 21/Oct/2007 at 10:11am
Hi Khokan....welcome to TED. Please introduce yourself here: http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17&PID=42166#42166 - www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17&PID=42166#42166
 
About your queries on the Ship-building sector, as per reports & management interviews the boom is likely to sustain for next 4~5 years due to many macro factors.
 


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Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 22/Oct/2007 at 1:00pm

1) Because of certain regulations, all old crude carriers need to replaced with new double hulled ships. Global ship builders like Hyundai/ Mitsubishi  have their hands full with these orders. So when something like this happens, orders for smaller ships goes to countries like India.

2) Till supply is able to meet the demand.
 
3) When there is no boom, the employees will be fired!


Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 22/Oct/2007 at 10:00am
smartcat, why will order generate for smaller ships at all? IMO will not allow it to ply at all. All the single hulls will have to go to scrapyards as all tanker companies are now trying to convert them into dry bulk vessel to capitalise on the ongoing demand in dry bulk. Fresh orders for single hulls will practically have no possibility. This may be a blessing for ship builders asthe scrap may become cheap owing to supply. Read this article at bloomberg.
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aACeVPlPw2mM - http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aACeVPlPw2mM


Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 22/Oct/2007 at 10:02am
Smaller size double hulls are not too much in vogue. So, smaller ships will face increased competition.


Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 23/Oct/2007 at 12:54pm
Vivek, what I meant to say was - big shipyards in Korea are busy building double hulled VLCCs. They do not have inclination to take care of demand for ships of smaller size (not crude carriers, just cargo). When something like that happens, shipping companies will look at economies like India/China which has decent shipbuilding capabilities at relatively lower cost.
 
If Vijay Mallya and Richard Branson walk into your store, you will obviously look into their requirements first. When Kulman and myself walk into your store, you will either ignore us or make us wait. So we will obviously walk out of your store and go to the local kirana store.
 
``It got so bad that, on one voyage from Sweden to Venezuela, we turned the engine off and went with the current down to the Caribbean because fuel was so expensive,'' said Mansson, 55. ``We got a telegram from Exxon to go at 7 knots, so we just floated down.'' 
 
This is really funny. I didn't know that we could switch off the engine and make the ship roll down a hill like an autorickshaw
 
 


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 23/Oct/2007 at 1:57pm
Thank God Exxon does not run aeroplanes!

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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 23/Oct/2007 at 2:26pm
Thank God Exxon does not run aeroplanes!
 
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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 25/Oct/2007 at 7:15pm
Ambitious Chinese shipyards plan to tap eager equity markets in coming years to ride a global trade boom, but investors should be wary about risks of a worldwide capacity glut by 2010.

China's shipbuilders - now cranking out everything from hulking supertankers to intricate vessels that ferry liquid gas - are enjoying their best years ever as the country devours resources and the world snaps up its cheap goods.

China won new orders for 1,064 vessels of 67.4 million deadweight tons (dwt) in the first eight months - 43 per cent of the global total, Clarkson Research estimated.

Some analysts believe that the strong momentum on shipyard stocks should continue as many players have locked in contracts at record prices for projects which may take some years to complete.

'Definitely, Chinese shipbuilding is a high growth market but there is some uncertainties whether there will be a capacity glut three, four years down the road,' said Mirae Asset's Mr Cheng

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/shippingtimes/story/0,4574,254026,00.html - www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/shippingtimes/story/0,4574,254026,00.html ?

 
 


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Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 25/Oct/2007 at 7:19pm
2010 is the year you should probably exit Bharati Shipyard. I will get out of Aban Offshore (rig glut again, after 2010). Or else, we will end up in Deep Sea.


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 25/Oct/2007 at 7:39pm

Yeah .....I'm thinking about the same.

I would then consolidate my partnerships with either Anil or Mukesh as these two chaps seem to be good allocators of capital.
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 30/Oct/2007 at 10:33pm
Both Bharati & ABG have posted good Q2 numbers.

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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 19/Nov/2007 at 10:39pm
Shipbuilders press for subsidy revival to stay in race
 
Despite the boom in the global shipbuilding market, Indian shipyards face the threat of becoming less competitive following the expiry of the five-year Government subsidy scheme about two months ago.

Sources say that the end of subsidies may not have an immediate impact on the balance sheets of the shipyards as the global market continues to be hot as also the prices of new ships.

Aided by the Government support and the subsequent boom in the market, the turnover of the shipyards increased from Rs 1,017 crore to Rs 3,657 crore in the last five years, a 259-per cent increase.

A study undertaken by KPMG has shown that the Indian yards face a price disadvantage of about 51 per cent and 41 per cent compared with those in China and Korea. These disadvantages are on account of different taxes, interest on working capital and capital expenditure and bulk purchase discounts on purchase of inputs.

The KPMG study has pointed out ...........the projected industry turnover of Rs 5,283 crore for 2008......... by 2014 turnover of Rs 31,476 crore......and  by 2017 turnover Rs 81,583 crore.....

Source: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2007/11/19/stories/2007111951480100.htm - http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2007/11/19/stories/2007111951480100.htm

 


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 19/Nov/2007 at 7:17am
That means the industry is growing at 34% CAGR till 2014! Actually that is what the organized retail sector is growing at. With strong entry barriers this could well be a sector to keep holding onto in case you are into it.


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Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 19/Nov/2007 at 7:37am
Ship-building doesnt have that too strong an entry barriers. You need engineering expertise, money and focus. Shipping comparatively has very very strong entry barriers. A Larsen can think of getting into ship building but they cant think of getting into shipping.


Posted By: manishdave
Date Posted: 19/Nov/2007 at 8:48am
China is leader in Ship-building. Renminbi is going to have big run-up. Labor is big component. That will be advantage India.


Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 19/Nov/2007 at 11:02am
Ship-building doesnt have that too strong an entry barriers. You need engineering expertise, money and focus. Shipping comparatively has very very strong entry barriers. A Larsen can think of getting into ship building but they cant think of getting into shipping.
 
Isn't it the other way around? And Larsen, being an engineering company,  would NOT want to get into shipping - it is a matter of choice rather than compulsion. Running a shipping company is something that logistics companies like Gati, Transport Corp etc would be interested in.


Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 19/Nov/2007 at 11:59am
A Big vessel's cost is equivalent to a fleet of 30 trucks. So, in order to have a fleet of 20 vessels you need to have an investment capability of owning a fleet of 600 trucks......


Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 20/Nov/2007 at 12:06pm
Smartcat, its all about financials. Ships typically have a big depreciation. So, three years after you have acquired a ship, that ship's contribution to the P/L( not cash flows) is actually negative as the depreciation and interest takes a toll. Its when your contribution( i.e. rentals-variable/semivariable costs) start to get big enough to cover the depreciation and interest then a ship becomes remunerative to the P/L. So, firstly it takes a good deal money to build a fleet. Secondly, it takes a good gestation to acquire a ship and thirdly, post acquiaition it takes a good gestation to become profitable to the P/L.


Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 20/Nov/2007 at 12:23pm

Understood! And I'll just extend the same logic to offshore drilling companies too (that's where my money is). Since each drilling rig can cost even $250 million depending on specifications, the capex intensive nature of the business automatically puts in entry barriers.

However, companies seem to be using cheap debt to acquire assets like these - and debt servicing is done via revenues accrued through rentals.
 


Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 20/Nov/2007 at 9:41pm

you may be the richest man on the earth but in order to get the thing(ships/rigs) , the thing must be available!!!!!!!!! else, you have to wait.....ONGC is sitting on 13500 crores of cash balance and is debt free.....but still it has to lease in the rigs, AHTVs, PSVs and other offshore vessels. Thats because it not only needs them but needs them immediately.....I hope I have made my point clear



Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 20/Nov/2007 at 11:01pm
I'm surprised neither RIL nor ONGC had the foresight to see this supply crunch. This is what happens when companies try to outsource everything, explaining it off by saying "this is not our core business competency"


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 27/Nov/2007 at 8:39am
Apart from ports, local shipyards are also looking at selling shares to the public.
 
Pipavav Shipyard Ltd, promoted by SKIL Infrastructure Ltd, and the state-run Cochin Shipyard Ltd have plans to raise money from the public. The management of Cochin Shipyard has been pushing for an IPO, but the proposal is yet to get clearance from the shipping ministry.
 
Source: http://www.livemint.com/2007/11/27232934/Mundra-IPO-success-may-push-po.html - http://www.livemint.com/2007/11/27232934/Mundra-IPO-success-may-push-po.html
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 29/Nov/2007 at 12:43pm
The Orissa government has cleared seven investment proposals totalling Rs 13,320 crore, including one shipyard  and six mineral-based industries.

The shipyard to come up near Dhamra, 150 kms from Bhubaneswar will be built by APJ-Bharati Shipping Company which had submitted a proposal of Rs 2,200 crore.

Earlier, APJ Bharati Shipyard proposed to set up two shipyards in West Bengal along with the Essar Group. The approximate project cost in West Bengal would be around Rs 2,000 crore.

Dalwai said as massive industrialisation was taking place in Orissa, the ship building yard would augment the water transport system in the state.

Around 11 ports are coming up in the state, which already has ports at Paradip and Gopalpur. 

Source: http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1136123 - http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1136123
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 03/Dec/2007 at 10:25pm
  • http://www.livemint.com/2007/12/03003826/Korean-shipbuilder-wins-750-m.html - Korean shipbuilder wins $750 mn Indian orders
 
South Korean shipbuilder STX Shipbuilding Co. Ltd has won orders to build 14 new ships, worth more than $750 million (about Rs2977.5 crore), from Indian shipowners who are buying new cargo carriers to cash in on the growing global demand for carrying raw materials such as steel, iron ore and coal.
 
The companies buying the ships are the state-run Shipping Corp. of India Ltd (SCI), Essar Shipping & Logistics Ltd and Great Eastern Shipping Co. Ltd.
 
 “The freight rates for moving dry bulk commodities have risen by almost three to four times in the last one year across all routes,” SCI’s Grover had said in an interview ­earlier.
 
  • http://www.livemint.com/2007/11/29014742/Mercator-enters-shipbuilding-w.html - Mercator enters shipbuilding with Mech Marine Engineers
 
Shipping company Mercator Lines Ltd and shipbuilder Mech Marine Engineers Pvt. Ltd have formed a shipbuilding joint venture, dubbed Mercator Mech Marine Ltd, to build cargo-carrying ships.
 
The proposed shipyard will cost Rs2,000 crore and will be at Vansi Borsi in Gujarat. Mercator Mech also plans to sell equity to a private equity firm to help finance the construction of the new yard, he added.
 
Meanwhile, Mech Marine is independently setting up a new shipyard on 200 acres of land at Palghar in Maharashtra at a cost of Rs300 crore.
It has already started constructing three ships there even as the civil construction work at the facility is in progress.
 
Mercator Lines joins the growing list of local private firms that have entered the shipbuilding sector. Companies such as Larsen & Toubro Ltd, SKIL Infrastructure Ltd, Good Earth Maritime Ltd, Apeejay Shipping Ltd have entered the business, joining established players including ABG Shipyard Ltd, Bharati Shipyard Ltd, Cochin Shipyard Ltd, Hindustan Shipyard Ltd, Mazagon Dock Ltd and Goa Shipyard Ltd.
 
India’s share in global shipbuilding is expected to rise to around 15%, or $ 22 billion, by 2020, from the current level of 0.4%, aided mainly by cost competitiveness and abundant supply of skilled manpower, according to a report prepared by Mumbai-based firm i-maritime Consultancy Pvt. Ltd.
 
  • http://www.livemint.com/2007/11/27000327/Global-ship-gear-makers-in-tal.html - Global ship gear makers in talks with local firms to set up shop
 
Global makers of ship parts and materials plan to set up factories in India to tap rising demand for their products as the country ramps up its shipbuilding capabilities to cash in on the global boom in the business.
 
Japan’s Mitsui & Co. Ltd and Chugoku Marine Paints Ltd, South Korea’s STACO Co. Ltd, Norway’s Jotun Group and Finland-based engine maker Wartsila Corp. are keen on setting up units in India, said V. Kumar, secretary, Shipyards Association of India, an industry body, and managing director of Bharati Shipyard Ltd.
 
Mitsui is looking at setting up a valve-making unit while Jotun and Chugoku are eyeing marine paint-making factories in India. Chugoku and Jotun are counted among the top global paint makers for the shipbuilding industry. STACO is a top supplier of marine accommodation systems and customized solutions for commercial and passenger ships as well as offshore structures. It makes fire-rated walls, ceiling systems, doors, pre-fabricated cabin, shower units and furniture used in ships.
 
Currently, in the absence of locally available engines, parts, materials and other gears, Indian shipbuilders import the same from factories in Finland, Norway, Germany, Italy, the UK and other countries. But amid a global boom in shipbuilding, dependence on overseas factories creates additional bottlenecks for Indian shipbuilders, both in terms of cost and time.
 
We will gain from faster delivery and better prices if these global firms set up shops in India,” Thomas said.
 
Apart from meeting the needs of the Indian market, they would also be able to supply their products to overseas customers from here, he added.
 
“Growth in shipbuilding drives growth in a large number of other supporting manufacturing sectors such as steel, heavy engineering, engine manufacturing, paints, etc. and mirrors the same economic multiplier effect witnessed in case of other infrastructure sectors,” said a recent study undertaken by consulting and audit firm KPMG on Assessing economic benefits and benchmarking government support in major shipbuilding nations.
 
 


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Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 07/Dec/2007 at 11:03pm
From Angel Broking report on ABG -
 
  ABG Shipyard is the only private sector shipyard to receive first payment of the shipbuilding subsidy. The company received first
payment of Rs6.48cr from the government. ABG has around Rs50cr subsidy due till date and the balance payment is expected shortly. The company has price reasonable certificates of Rs250.95cr.
 
We believe this gesture by the government is an indication of its continued support to the shipbuilding industry. We believe that subsidy will be extended for another five years probably at a lower quantum of 20%. Hence, we believe that subsidy is no longer a concern.


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 11/Dec/2007 at 10:50pm

INDIAN shipyards have registered a hike in orders from eight billion rupees to 155 billion rupees (S$5.7 billion) over the last five years.

Strong demand for cargo ships - coupled with the inability of market leaders China, Japan and South Korea to meet requirements - has propelled the flow of jobs to India.

India's share of the worldwide shipbuilding market is estimated to reach almost US$25 billion - more than 5 per cent - by 2020 due to abundant cheap labour and skilled manpower.

Global powerhouses such as Northrop Grumman from the US, DCN from France, Hyundai from Korea and British shipbuilder Bath Iron Works are expected to try to partner Indian outfits in modular shipbuilding.

So far, the problem is that India cannot meet the exponential jump in demand. Indian Navy chief Suresh Mehta said recently that the demand-supply gap for new warships will continue to rise.

Source: http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/shippingtimes/story/0,4574,259896,00.html? - here
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 12/Dec/2007 at 8:07am
Companies like L&T, Bharti Shipyard and ABG may get subsidy for ship-building activities for another 10 years.

The proposal could be considered for the forthcoming budget.

Domestic shipyards have received a number of orders valued at $3,700 million from international ship-liners.

“Indian ship-building industry has yet to achieve requisite scale and know-how. Since this could take a good number of years, the government needs to support it to expedite the process of acquiring the skill and scale,” said an industry analyst.
 
Link: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/Economy/Policy/Shipbuilders_may_float_on_subsidies_for_10_more_years/articleshow/2618444.cms - here
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2007 at 9:44pm

ABG Shipyard Ltd http://www.bseindia.com/qresann/news.asp?newsid=%7b066170BB-CEB6-4BA9-A8A1-2B52EE35796B%7d - has informed BSE that Lamnalco Ltd, Cyprus has placed repeat order for 2 vessels amounting to USD 34.20 million.

Maridive and Oil Services S.A.E. Egypt has placed repeat order for additional 2 vessels amounting to USD 46 million.


Precious Shipping Public Company Ltd THAILAND (PSL) and ESLL, Cyprus has also placed Order for Construction of 5 Nos 54,000 DWT Bulk Carrier at a Contracted Price of USD 184.48 million. The total 54,000 DWT vessels under construction now stands to 12 numbers.


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 17/Dec/2007 at 9:05am
Driving the industry’s prospects is the huge replacement demand for ships, most of which were acquired at the height of the global shipbuilding boom some 20-22 years ago. The increase in global trade augurs well.
 
Link: http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1139993 - here
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 19/Jan/2008 at 9:03pm
With the much talked impending sell-off in secondary markets....it would be interesting to see the response to forthcoming IPOs.
 
Pipavav Shipyard Limited has filed with SEBI draft documents for an initial public offering of over 8.68 crore equity shares of Rs 10 each through a 100 per cent book-building process.

The issue proceeds would be utilised to part-finance a shipyard complex at Pipavav, to be set up by the company at an estimated investment of Rs 2,888 crore, according to a release issued here today.


The company has already issued equity shares worth Rs 1,248.67 crore, including premium, while Rs 935.2 crore would be raised through financial institutions, it stated.

The construction would be conducted on an owner-managed basis, the release said, adding the company already "has agreements with three international shipowners for the construction of 26 Panamax bulk carriers of 74,500 DWT each for delivery from 2009 to May 2012 at an aggregate contract value of USD 1,063.12-million.
Link: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Market_News/Pipavav_Shipyard_files_DRHP_with_SEBI/articleshow/2713938.cms - here
 
 


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Posted By: catcall
Date Posted: 19/Jan/2008 at 9:47am
Expect the listing gains on this issue to have a positive rub-off on Punj Lloyd?!!

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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 06/Feb/2008 at 11:24pm
http://www.livemint.com/2008/02/05231953/LampT-plans-to-build-ship-en.html - L&T plans to build ship engines, looking for mega shipyard site
 
 


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Posted By: manishdave
Date Posted: 06/Feb/2008 at 1:55am
Originally posted by kulman

http://www.livemint.com/2008/02/05231953/LampT-plans-to-build-ship-en.html - L&T plans to build ship engines, looking for mega shipyard site
 
 
 
 
This is very important step ahead. India needs this kind of companies and industries. We have developed many white collar jobs, We need many more skilled blue collar jobs to balance pyramid.


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 07/Feb/2008 at 3:55pm

Some concerns+some noise .....article from BS: http://business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?autono=312807&leftnm=4&subLeft=0&chkFlg= - Shipbuilding companies: Weakening frame

 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 12/Feb/2008 at 8:01pm
Domestic shipbuilding and offshore fabrication major Pipapav Shipyard today said it has http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News_by_Industry/Pipapav_Shipyard_bags_Rs_2050-cr_order_for_carriers/articleshow/2777369.cms - The 26 ships on Pipavav Shipyards order book are all of the same design and total almost two million tonnes, giving it the largest orderbook in India.

The company performed a steel-cutting ceremony yesterday prior to commencing the project. With a capacity of 74,500 tonnes, the Panamax carriers are the largest ships being built in India, it said and added the delivery of these vessels is likely to begin from next year.

Pipavav Shipyard will also set up ship-repair facilities to take advantage of the lack of high-quality repair yards between the Gulf and Singapore besides seeking to enter the naval and ship repair sector to cater to the burgeoning needs of the Indian Navy, the statement added.
 
 
Let's see whether they re-price/re-schedule/postppone/withdraw their IPO.
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 15/Feb/2008 at 9:02am
  http://www.livemint.com/2008/02/15234846/LampT-in-talks-for-100-mill.html - Larsen and Toubro Ltd, is in talks with a Dutch shipowner for a new building contract valued at more than $100 million (Rs397 crore) said a person familiar with the development.
 
Dutch shipowner negotiating the deal was one of the shareholders of the Netherlands-based RollDock BV, which signed a memorandum of understanding with L&T on 13 February to built two modular carriers at Hazira yard in Gujarat, each having a cargo carrying capacity of 20,000 tonnes. This will take L&T’s order book to 10 ships. L&T is currently building eight ships valued at about Rs1,150 crore. These comprise six for RollDock and two from BigLift Shipping BV, also of the Netherlands.
 
L&T launched its shipbuilding venture in May 2006 with an order for building four ships valued at Rs440 crore from the Rotterdam-based shipping firm Zadeko Ship Management CV (now known as RollDock BV). RollDock placed a repeat order in August 2007 with L&T for building two more ships valued at more than $70 million.
 
Mumbai-based L&T has recently secured clearance from the Tamil Nadu cabinet to set up the country’s biggest shipbuilding facility at Kattupalli in Thiruvallur district near Chennai.
 
The Rs3,000 crore proposed shipyard-cum-port project will be capable of building 25 ships in a year, including five very large crude carriers, each with a capacity to carry 300,000- 350,000 tonnes of crude oil, and 20 Panamax vessels, which can each carry 120,000-200,000 tonnes of dry bulk commodities and are called thus because they can pass through the Panama Canal carrying cargo. The yard will also be able to repair 50-60 ships a year.
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 19/Feb/2008 at 7:50pm
India’s newest private shipbuilding firm,Pipavav Shipyard Ltd, is the latest in a growing list of firms http://www.livemint.com/2008/02/19011933/Pipavav-Shipyard-in-talks-to-s.html - looking to enter the business of making diesel ship engines in an attempt to meet growing demand for these in India and in other parts of the world, and is talking to two multinational firms for a partnership.
 
“We are in early talks with MAN Diesel SE and Wartsila Corp. for setting up an engine factory. We want more Indian (ship)yards to come up so that there are volumes to justify investment in an engine-making facility in India,” said Ray Stewart, chief executive officer, Pipavav Shipyard Ltd.


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 21/Feb/2008 at 10:04pm
India's shipbuilding industry is in shaky waters after the government withdrew a 30 per cent subsidy to ship builders and many of them are now going slow on their expansion plans.

http://www.ndtvprofit.com/2008/02/20002000/Shipbuilding-industry-Riding.html - NDTV has learnt that biggies like Bharati Shipyard and ABG, among others, are not going full hog with their expansion whereas new entrants like L&T, Essar and Reliance are adopting wait and watch policy .

Without a government subsidy the Indian shipmakers have a cost disadvantage of 35-55 per cent compared to their Chinese counterparts.

Worldwide the shipyards are full and the world is turning to India to meet its requirements. And industry players say Finance Minister P Chidambaram's Budget on January 29 should either extend the subsidy or give the shipbuilding sector infrastructure status so that Indian players can take advantage of the rising global demand.

 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 25/Feb/2008 at 11:56am
When state-run Cochin Shipyard Ltd delivered the sixth and last of a series of bulk carriers built for Denmark’s Clipper Group on 30 November 2007, it http://www.livemint.com/2008/02/25235043/India8217s-shipbuilding-ind.html - achieved a first for the Indian shipbuilding industry. The ship was handed over to the owner 105 days before the scheduled date of delivery .
 
The building of six bulk carriers, each having a capacity to carry 20,000 tonnes of dry bulk cargo, for the Clipper Group signifies India’s transition from a shipbuilding country that is notorious for missing delivery deadlines to one that meets globally acceptable standards on delivery time and quality of ships.
 
Delayed delivery means a yard has to spend more on labour costs, which erodes the firm’s margins. Besides, the firm will have to pay liquidated damages to the shipowner to compensate for loss on freight for each day of delay.
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 09/Mar/2008 at 9:09am
 
The Indian government has introduced a http://www.livemint.com/2008/03/10003817/Govt-introduces-8216global.html - condition that says shipbuilders should sign contracts only through global tenders if they want to avail of a proposed five-year subsidy of 20% on the deal value in a move that is likely to hamper the industry as most of the business is actually done through a network of brokers.
 
Meanwhile, shipbuilders note that the proposed subsidy is also below the previous rate of 30%. Shipping companies had been lobbying for an extension of the old scheme for 10 years.
 
However, a shipping ministry official, preferring anonymity, said the government will only extend the subsidy scheme for five years, but may be sympathetic about potentially modifying the clauses.
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 13/Mar/2008 at 4:52pm
Enamoured by the growth in the ship-building industry, engineering firm http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/LT_Blackstone_eye_stake_in_shipyard_co/articleshow/2859605.cms - Larsen & Tourbo, shipping company Great Offshore and private equity funds Blackstone, Abraaj Capital and Apax Partners are eyeing a stake in the south-based Tebma Shipyards.

Tebma Shipyards is India’s third largest private ship-building firm after ABG and Bharati Shipyard. Owned largely by ICICI Venture, Tebma, as part of expansion strategy, plans to build a facility in West Bengal.

The project, spread across 150 acres, entails a cost of Rs 500 crore ($125 million). Sources say the company plans to raise this amount through a mix of equity and debt. Various parties, including strategic and private equity funds, have approached ICICI Venture to invest in Tebma Shipyards, as rapid growth in the domestic sector continues to lure firms.
 
Ship-building players earn operating margins of 20-25% helped by 30% export subsidy.

The West Bengal shipyard will be Tebma’s third facility, in addition to its Chengalpattu (70km from Chennai) and Malpe in Karnataka. The company will issue fresh equity to the investor and accordingly, ICICI Venture’s stake in Tebma Shipyards will come down, market sources said. The new shareholder is likely to get upto 26% stake for $100 million in Tebma Shipyards. The Rs 400 crore Tebma has an order book position of $400 million.
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 15/Mar/2008 at 9:17am
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/iw/2008/03/16/stories/2008031650881500.htm - Shipbuilding: Setting sail to favourable winds

The shipbuilding industry in India has just set sail and appears headed for a promising future with an order book of almost Rs 24,000 crore or $5 billion.The surging order book along with expansion plans that are on track and strategies to move up the value chain in terms of bigger vessels and offshore segments, augur well for Indian shipbuilders.

Increase in seaborne trade and scrapping of old ships have been the primary drivers for an upsurge in demand for new ships globally. According to the International Maritime Organisation, over 95 per cent of world trade is carried by sea, resulting in increased demand for ships as trade expands.

Increase in oil and gas exploration on the back of high oil prices has also triggered demand for vessels in the offshore segment. Further, regulatory issues such as scrapping of single hull vessels by 2010 and retiring of older fleets are also driving demand.

This is, however, not backed by sufficient berths in shipyards in countries such as Korea and Japan that are established players in the sector.

These countries, apart from being fully booked in terms of capacities, have also moved to building larger vessels as high labour costs eat into the margins of smaller handy size vessels.

Hence, newer and low cost destinations such as China, India, Vietnam and Turkey have become conspicuous, specifically for their low-cost skilled labour.

Unlike a number of manufacturing activities which have moved to automated assembly lines, shipbuilding remains a largely labour-intensive and customised skill-intensive job, thus providing huge business potential for emerging countries with cheap and skilled labour.

While the public sector companies have a balance of domestic and export orders, the private players’ order book is tilted 85 per cent in favour of overseas orders, a good number of them being repeats. The orders of private players are clearly reflective of the gargantuan demand in the overseas market.

Nevertheless, the orders in terms of dead weight tonnage (DWT) are less than 0.5 per cent of the global order book. This is due to the fact that Indian players handle smaller vessels whereas established players globally have moved to larger segments.

However, the current expansion plans, as well as the recent forays by private players, are targeted at the larger vessel segment, offshore vessels and mid-sized bulkers. This may make for an improved global share.

Most of the private Indian shipbuilders’ current capacities are fully booked up to 2011 with listed players ABG Shipyard and Bharati Shipyard holding orders 11-12 times their FY07 revenues. With such huge orders (see table), the companies are looking at both the organic and inorganic growth route to ensure timely deliveries.

ABG, for instance, acquired Vipul Shipyard and was also awarded Western India Shipyard (under a revival plan). This is apart from expansion of its Surat facility and setting up a new unit in Dahej. Similarly, Bharati Shipyard is also in the race to acquire State-run Alcock Ashdown and has expansions plans in Dabhol and a new unit in Orissa (Bharati-Apeejay).

Given the current gloomy picture for exports in general, an overseas exposure of 85 per cent of the order book in the case of shipyards may appear risky.

However, the shipyard companies have weathered the currency appreciation well on the back of a high import component in their production. Imported materials and components account for close to 50 per cent of the revenue for these players, naturally offsetting any dent made by declining export realisations.

With new players entering the field, the two companies have made a conscious effort to move to larger vessels. The expanded/new facilities of these builders will mostly cater to larger vessels or offshore vessels and rigs.

This will also enable them to capitalise on the orders currently being rejected by high-end players in Japan, Korea and China due to tight capacities.

ABG and Bharti are, however, no longer the exclusive players in the listed space. The recent order boom, combined with the Government’s subsidy scheme, especially for exports, has lured a number of companies from other mainstream businesses to foray into shipbuilding. Mercator Lines and Mech Marine Engineering, Larsen & Toubro, Adani Group and Pawan Kumar Ruia Group have all lined up massive investments for shipbuilding ventures.

Other private shipyards are coming up with an initial public offer or tapping private equity. Pipavav Shipyard, for instance, has filed its draft red herring prospectus, while ICICI Ventures has a stake in Chennai-based Tebma Shipyard.

What has driven so many Indian players into the ring? Apart from the global business potential that is currently seen, the Government’s subsidy for the sector may have been a key factor that drove a number of companies to tap into the potential.

The subsidy scheme, which expired in August 2007, provided a 30 per cent incentive for ocean-going merchant vessels more than 80 meters in length that are sold domestically.

More importantly, a 30 per cent incentive is also available on all ships sold to foreign firms, irrespective of ship size.

To put it simply, a company receiving a Rs 500-crore order from a foreign company would be eligible for Rs 150 crore by way of a cash subsidy from the Government (which is received with a lag), the objective being to encourage a sector that is both labour and capital-intensive. Representation has been made by the shipbuilders’ association to revive this subsidy.

The Ministry of Shipping has also proposed a 20 per cent subsidy scheme. Clearly, with a huge import component and orders for low-end vessels, the sector may not paint a very bright picture if the proposal is not accepted.

Another factor that may have driven companies from other streams into the sector may be the fabrication facility built in shipyards. Punj Lloyd, for instance, will be able to use the fabrication facilities of Pipavav Shipyard (in which it has a strategic stake) for its mainstream business as well. A similar logic can be extended to Larsen & Toubro too. For these players, better utilisation of resources, apart from entry into a booming business, may well be one of the objectives.

 
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 15/Mar/2008 at 9:20am
Meanwhile, there are few warning signs...
 
ShowStory.aspx?StoryID=211215 - --> http://www.marinelink.com/Story/CreditCrunchSpreadstoShipyards-211215.html -
http://www.marinelink.com/Story/CreditCrunchSpreadstoShipyards-211215.html - Credit Crunch Spreads to Shipyards
There are growing signs the credit crunch that began with the U.S. housing market is spreading to the world's shipyards, Reuters reported.


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 25/Mar/2008 at 9:09am
Reinforcing India’s growing stature as a destination for building ships, the country’s biggest engineering firm Larsen and Toubro Ltd (L&T) has won a contract valued at about $240 million (Rs962.4 crore) to build four specialized ships for Dutch company RollDock BV.
 
Indian companies are currently building about 245 ships worth more than Rs20,000 crore.
 
“The contract involves a firm order for building two ships, each with a capacity to carry up to 10,000 tonnes of modules for the offshore oil industry, and options for two more,” a person familiar with the deal said. He did not want to be identified because the deal has not been made public yet.
 
Soaring global oil prices have led oil explorers to pump in millions of dollars to prospect for oil and gas under the ocean floor. This, in turn, has triggered huge demand for ships that provide logistics support for offshore oil exploration activities.
 
India currently has 27 yards with a shipbuilding capacity of 2.8 million tonnes (mt)—small by global standards. “India’s shipbuilding capacity is projected to increase to 5mt by 2012 and to 18mt by 2017,” said Umesh C. Grover, director, technical and offshore, at state-run Shipping Corp. of India Ltd.
 

Link: http://www.livemint.com/2008/03/26002613/LampT-wins-240-mn-for-build.html - L&T wins $240 mn for building four ships

 
 
 
 


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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 12/Apr/2008 at 8:07am



Offshore service provider http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/04/09/stories/2008040950790700.htm - Dolphin Offshore Ltd moved a step closer towards the take off platform for its proposed Rs 400-crore greenfield shipyard project in Gujarat , with the company having received the Letter of Intent by the Gujarat Maritime Board for setting up the project at Jafrabad.

The project will be implemented in three phases.

The first phase will involve an investment of about Rs 60 crore, which will be used to set up a fabrication yard for Dolphin’s EPC contracts, shipbuilding yard with slipway, machinery shops and office block. This phase will commence immediately upon receipt of the necessary licences and clearances from the Government including environmental clearance, the officials said.

The second phase, involving an investment of Rs 70 crore, will commence after the shipbuilding activities begin and will include the construction of the necessary jetties and outfitting berths as well as additional infrastructure required. This phase is expected to cost Rs 70 crore.

The third phase is estimated to cost Rs 270 crore and will involve setting up of repair facilities for ship and offshore drilling units.

After completion of the three phases of construction, the shipyard will be capable of dry-docking jack-up rigs, apart from constructing bigger ships. In fact, no shipyard in India can currently service the giant jack-up rigs used for offshore oil exploration.

At present, oil exploration companies, including ONGC, are forced to tow their jack-up rigs all the way to the nearest shipyards in Dubai for servicing.

It takes 14 days for the rig to reach Dubai shipyard and another 14 days to tow it back to India, which means a loss of 28 days of just travel time. Given the fact that the rigs at present command a daily hire rate of $2,00,000, you are talking about a loss of $5.6 million just to ferry the rig from India to Dubai and back,” an official said.



If that's the cost saving, expect Reliance to foray into this.






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Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 14/Apr/2008 at 5:51am

Indian Navy warships are world class, at fraction of the cost of the world

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/apr/15navy.htm - http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/apr/15navy.htm


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Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 10/Jun/2008 at 7:13pm
Whats wrong with shipyards in India?????
 
ABG has come down so sharply so has Bharati.......
 
 
 


Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 10/Jun/2008 at 7:36pm
Don't say that aloud - somebody might put a curse on your shipping stocks.


Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 10/Jun/2008 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by smartcat

Don't say that aloud - somebody might put a curse on your shipping stocks.
 
Very true...thanks for the suggestion....
 
Am editing my previous post.


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 12/Jun/2008 at 10:57am
Originally posted by Vivek Sukhani

Whats wrong with shipyards in India?????
 


Shayad yeh
companies ki kashtiyon mein subsidy ka chhed hain. Order inflow has also dried up.

Meanwhile....ABG Shipyard Ltd has bagged an Order from Marnavi Spa, Italy for the construction of 1 vessel of 130 Tonne Bollard Pull AHTS for Anchor Handling, Towing, rescue, offshore supply and other related duties. This is the first contract signed with the buyer. The value of the contract is approx. Rs 127.00 Crores (Euro 19.17 Million). http://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/announcement/ABG_Shipyard_Ltd_120608.pdf - Click here for more details

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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 26/Jun/2008 at 10:13am
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1173841 - ABG Shipyard bags sub-sea vessels deal

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Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 26/Jun/2008 at 11:54am
Originally posted by kulman

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1173841 - ABG Shipyard bags sub-sea vessels deal
 
Which is good.....hope with this deal, it may be able to bring back its investors from the sub-sea levels to the surface at least.....
 
 


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 26/Jun/2008 at 11:59am
Originally posted by Vivek Sukhani

 
Which is good.....hope with this deal, it may be able to bring back its investors from the sub-sea levels to the surface at least..... 


LOL very true!




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Posted By: paragdesai
Date Posted: 27/Jun/2008 at 12:07pm
LOL
Originally posted by Vivek Sukhani

Originally posted by kulman

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1173841 - ABG Shipyard bags sub-sea vessels deal
 
Which is good.....hope with this deal, it may be able to bring back its investors from the sub-sea levels to the surface at least.....
 
 
 
Hope they are not thinking of venturing for SUBMARINE  LOL



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