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rajivsubra
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    Posted: 21/Apr/2010 at 3:23pm
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Capital Protected Structured Products

Such products are being offered by many of the securities houses - but from an investors (not trader) perspective, what is the role of capital protected structured products in a portfolio?

In my view, debt has three major functions for a value investor -
(a) safety cache in the event of some personal emergency
(b) cash to buy heavily when the market falls
(c) To ensure you are not wiped out in case you have made some unlucky/bad equity choices

Structured products, esp those with capital protection, fall in a category between equity and debt.
The benefits of these products are that:
(a) they may provide equity like returns (above 15% p.a.) (b) while limiting the downside risk by assuring 100% of your principal is protected

The negatives include
(a) locking in of capital for the term of the product (may be 3-5 years)
(b) The returns are usually capped, so there is an opportunity cost vs. equities
(c) There is some default risk associated with the issuer (after what happened in 2008, no one is too big to fail)

Any views on how these might fit in a value investor's mindset and portfolio...
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Quote absolut Replybullet Posted: 21/Apr/2010 at 4:34pm
 
  Most of the Structured Products have failed ... coz the 100% capital protection comes with a condition ...moreover the higher the participation higher the risk ...and also the blackswan theory applies to the sell decision.
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Quote rakeshmehta48 Replybullet Posted: 24/Apr/2010 at 4:21am
In the past "Capital Protected" products have not given any great returns, in the international markets (Same rule must apply to Indian markets also)
At the end of tenor, normally you get back your capital and if lucky some meagre returns.
Such funds cannot match equity returns, simply because of the charter of such funds, which allows 10-15% only to be invested in equities.
They operate like this:
Suppose Rs100 invested in 3 years capital protected fund.
90 will be invested on day one in fixed interest bearing security for 3 years, which may yield 10 in three years. Hence 100 capital is protected after three years.
Balance 10 will be put on speculation by buying highly volatile and highly leveraged options or leaps for some outstanding returns.
If the fund manager is successful on this 10 speculation, then the return on 100 improves somewhat.
Otherwise 100 is protected.
Fund Management is Most Important
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Quote Monkey Replybullet Posted: 25/Apr/2010 at 2:49pm
I agree with what Rakesh says.
 
In a way, you can create your own capital protected product, in more or less same way as fund managers, without paying them fees!
 
Idea is to put 80% - 85% (depending on interest rate) of allocated money in FD for 3 years such that your post tax returns come to 100% of allotted capital at the end of 3 years. This ensures your capital is protected.
 
Of the balance 15% - 20% of money, you buy long dated (preferably 3 years) Nifty calls. Here, you make money depending on market and depending on how many and what type of calls you could buy.
 
Having said that, this is very convoluted approach of investing one's money and I would not personnaly recommend this.
 
Guarantee in stock market is oxymoron. Best way is to do investing in sensible way. If you buy right, three years is good time to make you money. There is no need to seek guarantee and paying price for that.
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