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Quote Ajith Replybullet Posted: 25/Mar/2008 at 2:12pm
 Internationally,Rayban's parent Luxotticca is the aggressive leader in eyecare retailing apart from its range of products.They have moved into China.
Titan eyecare should do well in India again because of the Tata name.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 25/Mar/2008 at 3:02pm
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In the eyewear business these guys have a 300% markup on the cost of the spects/lenses etc.Shocked
 
oh boy, with so much margin they should rope in few mega stars from movies & cricket and do adverts to further boost up sales .....
 
or they could provide specs / goggles free in most big banner movies and and display such posters as pos
 
 
 
Not sure of that but eyewear could potentially contribute as much to bottomline as the watch division in about 2 years.The markup is just too big!!!
 
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Quote tigershark Replybullet Posted: 25/Mar/2008 at 3:56pm
a frame plus regular glasses will be done for 300-400 bucks and would be pawned off to the gullible customer for1000-1200bucks.Wink.i do not indulge in such practise as iam a eye doctor
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Quote Mohan Replybullet Posted: 25/Mar/2008 at 8:43pm
Eyewear is very big business in the US too with fat margins. IF Titan becomes big player in eyewear its is a great business to be in.

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Quote romanov Replybullet Posted: 25/Mar/2008 at 1:41am
Basant Ji..nice to see TITAN is in the sticky part of the forum..
 
My arguments and I prefer business which are:
"Either Master of one or Jack of all"..
 
Though this dictum when applied to humans has changed to
"Master of One and Jack of all"
 
I have seen lot of Retail Jewellery stores out here in US...the present scenario shows me that once any of the group starts succeeding there will be far too many similar oulets,effectively nibbling the market share..additionaly along with TITAN-TANISHQ and GITANJLI-NAKSHATRA diamond-- they have to reinvent themselves..these stores can not succeed solely on Gold Play...
 
High end Customers --will aspire for more better Brands
Medium end Cutomer-- this is what the stores will cater to
Low end Customer--- Depends on the way Titan prices it's products..and I think it will be difficult to surpass the personal touch that a local jewellery owner commands.
 
Additionaly any Organised retail story can be a success only if it offers variety..when I go to a Titan shop and only see Titan watches what's the fun Sleepy...so if in PRIL(Central) there is a store of Titan and many others than it will be good for both,but in that case I would buy Shares of PRIL or TRENT?
 
Thus mixing up three products in it's store will make it less of a Player.
 
However I think Gitanjli is much better positioned.In marriages I have seen a definite increased liking of Diamond...but funny thing with Diamond is without a Certificate it's just a peice of Glass..but nonetheless it's demand will go up.Both GILI and Tanishq offer 4C diamonds...but GILI is concentrating solely on Diamond which will make it far better strategic player.
 
Additionally when it comes to Spects..there is hardly any store ...those that are present do not have good opthalmologist except 'Bausch and Lomb"...and I agree 100% of the excellent Market Cap.
 
But if  Titan mixes up all three,I won't be very comfortable first buying my Spects and than asking for Diamonds from the same store.Tongue
 
Lastly all depends on the CEO's and Mangement ...Tata's make money but when it comes to new ventures they are bit Lazy...and I would love the mangement to be Hungry and ambitious(see Basantjee's other thread where he describes comparision of small business becoming big) 


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Quote gopal Replybullet Posted: 25/Mar/2008 at 11:07am
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But if  Titan mixes up all three,I won't be very comfortable first buying my Spects and than asking for Diamonds from the same store.Tongue
 
Romanov,
 
bhai the spect stores, jewellry shops and watch stores are different shops ie tanisq the jeweller, fast track for optics, time stores for watch ...
 
is this correct na basantji
 
 
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 25/Mar/2008 at 11:20am

The seperate models (inspite of the odds) become a 40 bagger in the last 5 years. One could have raised the same argument and missed this 40 bagger!

The numbers of the company do not show any such problem.
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