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Quote Kabootar Replybullet Posted: 30/Sep/2010 at 11:01pm
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The trick was just holding the stocks and avoiding the sectors plus Money to buy stocks how many of us had invest able sums then.

This gyan and lecture is with total hindsight advantage take it or leave it.

It seems just like in life in stock markets too simplicity in thinking wins every time.


They should make every small investor recite your gyan 10 times from memory. RJ and Parag Parikh keep repeating this same thing at every forum they get to interact with investors, but how many people want to hear that part?

Schools should add financial education along with the Moral Science and PT. teach a kid to put 100 rupees a month in an RD for 5 years, that will teach him the power of holding and compounding.

And all my ranting is because I'm angry at the state of affairs. It has come to a point where small investors are being called DUMB MONEY by the brokers and anchors. maybe because they had to work hard for that money and think 100 times before buying stocks. These days the big guys dont even hide their contempt for the little fish.


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Quote go4sheel Replybullet Posted: 01/Oct/2010 at 2:31pm
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here I am watching out 2 future multibaggers during the next 1-2year but, Any one of you have idea or comments please share
 

1. MIC Electronics : A small but technology concept business LED displays and lightings supported by Japan company who are giving them the required semiconductor technology and device. Almost monoploy supply to railways for the emergency lighting, Recent contract of 4 crore from australia, Ventured into leasing of LED screens for events like 9 crore worth supply to common wealth games. I see future demand of their services from media, event management and advertisement industry.

 

Technically the stock is available at 40 near to the bottom, Buy for target of 120 in 1 year time.

 

Only concern is capacity expansion & competition or technology risk  but same time innovation would drive the growth.

 

2. Microtechnologies India : This is good security device maker with innovation capabilities , The strong fundamental and cheap valuation is mouth watering  and same time a concern why markets are not giving value to it may be something internal which we don't know but apart from them i feel security devices should have lots of demends in future and innovation capabilities of the company can drive further growth .

 

CMP 210 already 2 bagger i look further to go 500 in 1 years time .

 

Both these and threads  on TED to discuss and record them here so that 1-2 year down i can check the same place to see what happend.



I think competition is the main concern for MIC Electronics.

If you see there are so many players in unorganised sector who makes LED lights, torches, lanterns, etc.,

So one has to see if MIC has any kind of monopoly in its products.

Also if it has good product portfolio then why it has not taken off in a big in sales.
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Quote chimak10 Replybullet Posted: 01/Oct/2010 at 10:32am
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They should make every small investor recite your gyan 10 times from memory. RJ and Parag Parikh keep repeating this same thing at every forum they get to interact with investors,




Kabootar sir you are making a mungeri blush People didn't understood what i was trying to say.

i didn't mean you buy x numbers of stocks and hold them blindly. A Person should at least understand concept of biz cycles, MCAP, few basic valuation ratios, companies position in the industry, some view about companies management, at least understanding of the business, some basic reading of stock gurus. Avoiding sectors like fertlizer, papers, tires , aviation etc etc. To have some estimate for future growth.

All i wanted to say was that a person since 2003 could have gotten very good decent return in long run by buying companies like consumer companies, many private psu banks, known brand names like 3M, pidilite, castrol without knowing anything about stocks. How many people are stuck in so many real estate stocks, stocks like rcom, suzlon, northgate, indage viniters, etc etc.

I just wanted to say while chasing high touted growth stocks average people didn't make any money.
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Quote prabhakarkudva Replybullet Posted: 01/Oct/2010 at 10:50am
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I just wanted to say while chasing high touted growth stocks average people didn't make any money.


Isn't the same happening with Delta corp now? I still feel the pertinent question is when would one get out of delta corp(or any other high flyer) rather than if you should get in now? An exit strategy can save a lot of heartburn.
Take your chances and keep them in a box until a quieter time.
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Quote rajnsharma Replybullet Posted: 01/Oct/2010 at 11:52am
Originally posted by prabhakarkudva

Originally posted by chimak10

I just wanted to say while chasing high touted growth stocks average people didn't make any money.


Isn't the same happening with Delta corp now? I still feel the pertinent question is when would one get out of delta corp(or any other high flyer) rather than if you should get in now? An exit strategy can save a lot of heartburn.


I feel an exit strategy is the most important thing in stock market. Worse case you will not make as much money as your friend is making, but you will also not loose money.

Another important point is that when we are following RJ or SA we come to know much later about their buying and don't even know their exit strategy. Also they can hold for years and decades due to their conviction and their research, but how many of us have the conviction to stay put beyond one or two quarters if the company shows average results for some time.

The best example is Hawkins. How many of us will still believe in the story if there is another average quarterWink.
By the way I have a vested interest in the question, as my portfolio is heavily tilted towards Hawkins.

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Quote chimak10 Replybullet Posted: 02/Oct/2010 at 3:30pm
I was just talking about buying the stocks selling has to be done on your own.

In 1996-2003 most non tech companies were selling at throw away MCAP with lot of value and growth possibility. and relatively it was also the case in late 2008 and early 2009. Most of the people don't understand this concept of MCAP relative to sector opportunity size.Plus the whole business cycle was in downtrend then.

Selling the companies ........now this is an art which no one has learned. Not even buffett or peter lynch or RJ or arora.

A person should sell the stock when he feels that the company is not performing, or he has made his target corpus from the market, or he finds more exciting stock to invest in. Or he just feels like selling it. Or that the company is quoting at godforsaken valuation which company will never be able to catch up.

Or the person feels that market is overheated and will crash down. etc etc etc.

No more gyaan on selling the stocks from me.
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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 02/Oct/2010 at 7:26pm
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i didn't mean you buy x numbers of stocks and hold them blindly. A Person should at least understand concept of biz cycles, MCAP, few basic valuation ratios, companies position in the industry, some view about companies management, at least understanding of the business, some basic reading of stock gurus. Avoiding sectors like fertlizer, papers, tires , aviation etc etc. To have some estimate for future growth.
 
I think most Indians think the stock market is a casino and never think about these things.... Smile
 
Offcourse, this is great since it means less competition for us.
 
This is where Basant Ji's innovation of TED is playing a great role in our lives.
 
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Quote Kabootar Replybullet Posted: 02/Oct/2010 at 8:20pm
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Kabootar sir you are making a mungeri blush People didn't understood what i was trying to say.

i didn't mean you buy x numbers of stocks and hold them blindly.

I just wanted to say while chasing high touted growth stocks average people didn't make any money.



Kya boss... mungeri bana diya. Anyway leave it, all I meant was that investors should be taught some proper concepts before they unleash their chequebooks.

Can we agree that there are 10, 15, maybe 20 companies where you do not have to think much about when you buy for the future. Stocks that transform with the economy. They could be in infra, banking, power, auto, manufacturing.

Yes, basic knowledge of financials is a must, it is not rocket science. But anyone who uses common sense can do well in the stock market.

Edited by Kabootar - 02/Oct/2010 at 8:42pm
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