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Quote PKB2000 Replybullet Posted: 03/Oct/2007 at 12:07pm
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Loan for Tatas would have been cleared on an SMS also!
Just a continuation how the internet banking occurs in case of ICICI to HDFC banks. I am using this opportunity since begining of the facility available to us (both in ICICI and HDFC)
It takes three days at least to useful transfer money from ICICI BANK to HDFC bank (Interstate) in net . HDFC talks of four days for fund transfer in inter state (within India)
In case of same city it occurs in same day - if the said branch is directly under fund transfer facility.
I heard at TV18( about more than an year back) about fund transfer and one ICICI bank representative was telling that effective fund transfer even from overseas takes 15 minutes and with RBI clearance it should not be more than 24 hours.
But when I transferred my money to other states (within India) it took 3 days to be credited to the bank account from ICICI bank.
Of course as I find that extensive follow up can make the things little quicker and the beauty is that during follow up one blames other about the delay!
So different type of transfer takes different time depending upon the customer and the bank!
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 05/Oct/2007 at 10:18am
Here's an article about Banking/Fin Svcs industry in US. May not be relevant for us but I'm posting a link because some thoughts are interesting:
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Investing in the domestic financial services sector might sound daunting, especially in light of the recent volatility in this area of the market. Moreover, the sector is vast and diverse. A legitimate question is, how can an investor pick winners without stumbling on the losers--especially at a time when there have been so many of the latter?
 
 
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Quote tigershark Replybullet Posted: 06/Oct/2007 at 3:27pm
BANK STOCKS DIP ON FUND SELLING;bank stocks have been witnessing some selling presure in the last couple of days.acording to mkt sources a few big institutions have been selling banking sector stocks and also reduced their open int positions in fand o on expectattions that the rbi might increase the crr.acording to them banks are already grappling with high deposit and lending rates with flush liquidity and stagnent credit growth. the monetory policy shall be taken up on oct30.acording to banking analysts if rbi hikes crr banks may not be in a position to pass on the opportunity cost of funds thus mobilised on to customers and may have to bear the burden themselves,source---hindu bussinessline6oct 2007
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 06/Oct/2007 at 3:53pm
I am desperately looking forward to such a CRR hike as it gives me an opportunity to add these banking stocks.
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Quote omshivaya Replybullet Posted: 06/Oct/2007 at 4:15pm
Absolutely. You read my thoughts Basant sir. Yes Bank would be at around 180-190(max.) if a CRR happens and that would be great. However, if it goes below 180 that would be a pleasant suprise for me.
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Quote s_praharaj Replybullet Posted: 06/Oct/2007 at 4:45pm
While evaluating a Bank's stock don't go by the growth of business.
Business consists of Deposit and Advances.
 
In deposit there are Savings, Current Account, Term Deposits at card rate and Bulk deposits.
 
Always take out the deposits separately for each quarter.
Then see the growth. In many cases, you will find that the growth of deposit is mainly due to TD and Bulk deposits. Bulk deposits are a loss proposition for Banks, as it is accepted at a higher rate than the card rate. If the bulk deposits are more than the normal deposits, the growth in fact is negative and the Bank is showing growth in business at the cost of making profit.
 
Similarly it is for advances. Here we have to see how much is retail advance and how much is corporate advance. Retail advance is always better than the corporate. Again Corporate advances may be short term or for long term. Long term is also OK for the Bank. But if the Bank is deploying too much of its advances in short term  advances to the corporates, it infers two things.
 
1. The Bank has taken too much bulk deposits without any clear cut idea of deploying it, and hence resorting to short term corporate loans, which is generally at a abysmally low rate of intt, say even less than 7% in some cases.
2.The Bank does not have good credentials among corporates, to deploy these funds in the long term. (There is a competion in this segment of advances by the Banks.)
 
The above I think will help in analysing the Banks position for taking investment decission.
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Quote PKB2000 Replybullet Posted: 06/Oct/2007 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by basant

I am desperately looking forward to such a CRR hike as it gives me an opportunity to add these banking stocks.
I have heard some ANTI left people are now  praying for  a hard remark or partial action by Prakash karat  to enter in to the stocks they like most!Clap
 
Additionally I have also read that a few American stock market-people are not happy with the recent data of improved employment because they feel that may put a brake in further rate reduction by FED!


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Quote prosperity Replybullet Posted: 06/Oct/2007 at 8:43pm
Instead of a hike - credit policy would bring a cut in the interest rates of 25bps !  Since this is what Chidabaram wants - then this is what RBI would do !!
 
So in that case, buy Bank stocks before a interest rate cut is announced ..
 
I hear Buffet crying - Don't predict the direction of interest rates, results of election, timing tops/bottoms of markets ... and so on ....
 
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I am desperately looking forward to such a CRR hike as it gives me an opportunity to add these banking stocks.
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