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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 17/Aug/2009 at 9:34pm
Hi FutureBull,
 
I am not sure about Ennore Foundary.
 
Ennore Coke belongs to the Shriram group (of Shriram Transport finance fame). In the Shriram EPC report (another Shriram company) they mentioned that Ennore coke has given them a big order.
 
I found out that Ennore coke has a small market cap.....it was a bit mystifying.
 
Wondering if you have any idea.
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Quote deveshkayal Replybullet Posted: 18/Aug/2009 at 1:02pm
Deutsche Bank intitiated with a target price of 4150.

1. A low cyclical business
2. Adding capacities at a fast pace
3. New ventures are very profitable
4. Operational captive coal block a competitive advantage
5. Cost savings, volume growth in steel and power drives PAT
6. Stock performance does not capture low cyclicality
7. Our TP of INR 4150, based on SOTP and DCF approach, implies 33% upside potential
– TP implies exit P/E of 19.7x FY10e for power and 10xFY10e for steel - a discount to peers
– Only large power utility trading at a near 20% discount to NPV
8. Headline P/E is misleading due to conservative accounting policies
9. Key risks include: delays in implementation, imposition of a regulatory cap on spot power rates
below INR 4/unit and fall in global fuel prices by over 40% from current levels.
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 18/Aug/2009 at 4:42pm
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Deutsche Bank intitiated with a target price of 4150.
7. Our TP of INR 4150, based on SOTP and DCF approach, implies 33% upside potential


Hmmm...so SOTP is back in vogue!

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9. Key risks include: delays in implementation, imposition of a regulatory cap on spot power rates
below INR 4/unit and fall in global fuel prices by over 40% from current levels.


One major key risk is that Deutsche has recommended to buy.


Disclosure: The author has no positions. The author is not against either JSPL or DB.





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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 18/Aug/2009 at 5:06pm
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Confused Confused  Confused. Sitting firmly on the fence or on the sidelines is a position.

I think where SOTP really ran aground was in the valuation of real estate and land banks.

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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 18/Aug/2009 at 5:27pm
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Sitting firmly on the fence or on the sidelines is a position.


Hmmm....sitting firmly on fences can be very painful at times.....e.g.




While on the subject, Charlie Munger once said,“You don't have to pee on an electric fence to learn not to do it!”





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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 18/Aug/2009 at 5:52pm
Talking of painful, if you look at the .pdf presentation that Devesh cited a few pages earlier, you will find that JSPL has won a few Golden Peacocks, and if you remember the posts in the Satyam thread .....
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Quote deveshkayal Replybullet Posted: 18/Aug/2009 at 8:11pm
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One major key risk is that Deutsche has recommended to buy.Disclosure: The author has no positions. The author is not against either JSPL or DB.


I think Deutsche was among the rare financial companies who was unaffected by the crisis. Correct me If I am wrong .
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 18/Aug/2009 at 9:13pm
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I think Deutsche was among the rare financial companies who was unaffected by the crisis. Correct me If I am wrong .


Oh really? Great!

All the best to DB and DK.

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