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Quote PKB2000 Replybullet Posted: 18/Oct/2007 at 12:45pm
RIL Q2 net profit at Rs 3837cr... Oct 18        
Is this good or bad (RIL+IPCL) result?
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 18/Oct/2007 at 12:55pm
Couldn't have been better. This article says it all -
 
 
If you had looked at any brokerage report in May or June this year, ALL of them had predicted an EPS/net profit growth of around 5% for FY08 over FY07.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 18/Oct/2007 at 7:45am
Brokers make 4 adjustments each year talk to the management each time they make a change and get it wrong.I wonder what stuff these guys are made of?
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Quote tigershark Replybullet Posted: 18/Oct/2007 at 8:35am
it appears that ril trades at 23-24 times 08 earnings and 17-18 times 09 earnings based on the current workings and high crude prices.the gas equation is not considered here and retail has been kept out.add the gas in 09 so smartcat what dowe get?
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 19/Oct/2007 at 12:31pm
I think Ambani is trying to do a INFY - promise less and deliver more.
 
the gas equation is not considered here and retail has been kept out.add the gas in 09 so smartcat what dowe get? 
 
Pessimistic Scenario: A 30% CAGR growth in net profits/ EPS over a period of 5 years. This is assuming crude oil average is $60 a barrel and gas prices are derived from that. This is also assuming that there are no more oil and gas discoveries like the ones found in KG/Cauvery basin.
 
Optimistic Scenario: RIL will be among the top 20 market cap companies in the world in another 5 years. This will depend on more oil and gas discoveries in the remaining blocks that is yet to be unexplored. One decent sized newly discovered oil/gas reserve can quickly add $10 billion to RIL's market cap in a matter of days.
 
Petro China ($450 billion MCAP) is already the second largest company in the world after Exxon Mobil. The similarities between PetroChina's growth story and Reliance Industries ($90 billion MCAP) is uncanny.
 
 
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 19/Oct/2007 at 12:34pm
The reason for the optimistic scenario is that India probably has massive oil & gas reserves. The only problem is it is not 'proven' yet. Quoting from my old post -
 
Originally posted by smartcat

India's oil & gas companies are like big frogs in a well. They are big yes, but the size of oil and gas companies of the world is staggering in comparison. Examples -

 
Exxon Mobil (USA)       - Revenues of $340 billion
British Petroleum (UK) - Revenues of $267 billion
Sinopec (China)           - Revenues of $98 billion
Gazprom (Russia)        - Revenues of $50 billion
 
While one might argue that, hey, there are big banking companies in developed markets too. Why just look at oil and gas? The reason is - oil and gas industry in India is undergoing a big structural change - they are at an inflection point.
 
- NELP (National Exploration and Licencing Policy) has resulted in discoveries after discoveries of oil and gas (Rajasthan, KG Basin etc) in just 7 years. Before NELP, there were zero discoveries after Bombay High discovery in 1970s. Companies to watch out for - ONGC, RIL, Videocon Industries and Cairn.
 
- Some scientists claim that Central India has more oil reserves than Iraq. Unfortunately, the current technology does not allow exploration companies to drill through hard rock of the Deccan Plateau. This might change in the near future. Companies to watch out for - ONGC, RIL and Cairn - in partnership with global oil majors.
 
- Exxon Mobil didn't become a $400 billion company through E&P within USA. They have their reserves in Mexico, Venezuela, Russia (Sakhalin) etc. Some of the Indian companies like ONGC and Videocon Industries are already following the footsteps by buying oil blocks in Sudan, Indonesia, Russia etc.
 
- India has a huge appetite for natural gas. It can be used to generate power and also used for domestic purposes like cooking etc. While discoveries in KG Basin directly affect E&P companies like RIL, Cairn, ONGC and Gujarat State Petroleum Co., it will also have a positive impact on gas distribution companies like GAIL. Gail is investing Rs. 25,000 crores in laying pipelines all over India, and they hope to increase their revenues 3 times in the next 4 years.
 
I haven't covered companies like Petronet LNG, Indraprastha Gas or RNRL - because frankly, I am not quite sure what they do!
 
I see my next long-term multibagger in good old Reliance Industries. It has gone up 6 times in the last 3 years. I have no reason to believe it won't give similar returns in the future too.
 
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Quote sribull Replybullet Posted: 31/Jul/2008 at 8:11am
is current market price a good buy?
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Quote Subhankar Replybullet Posted: 13/Jan/2009 at 11:52am
In my blog post of Jan 4, some reasons are given as to why Reliance is NOT a good buy at current prices.

I won't be surprised if a Satyam-like scam is lurking some where in this counter.
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