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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 05/Jun/2007 at 10:24pm
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a) Business channels
b) Brokerages
c) AMC's
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Rel Cap would gain!!!!
 
One business channel minority stake would not make much of a difference to Rel cap but surely the AMC and brokerage would be hitting the jackpot!
 
If the AUM grows 10 times in 5 years - perfectly possible then the Assets under management would hit Rs 6 lac crores a 6% valuation of that at Rs 36,000 crores is 50% higher then current market cap plus all other buysinesses FREE!!!


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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 08/Jun/2007 at 9:46pm
If any of you saw that RJ interview he was also betting on the flow of the money tap into the equity markets. I think US $ 50 billion by 2010(though perfectly possible) could be an avalanche of liquidity and maybe our experts would use another word for it. They might call it the "river"!!!
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 13/Jun/2007 at 4:54pm

Over the next 3 years Madhu Kela of Reliance Mutual fund expects the total net inflow of equity through MF's to cross Rs 3 lac crores.



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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 01/Jul/2007 at 3:15pm

Over this weekend, came across couple of MF advisors/agents whose customers are mainly IT/ITES/BPO employees.

The amount of response they are getting from young people for SIPs, STPs in existing schemes + NFOs is huge. The rising income levels has ensured that there's lot of spare cash available towards savings.
 
And having heard the success stories of the past, young couples investing now are ready to wait for many many years for the 'power of compounding' to do its magic. Meaning that this is the long term money coming into capital markets.
 
 
 
 


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Quote us121 Replybullet Posted: 01/Jul/2007 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by kulman

Over this weekend, came across couple of MF advisors/agents whose customers are mainly IT/ITES/BPO employees.

The amount of response they are getting from young people for SIPs, STPs in existing schemes + NFOs is huge.
Meaning that this is the long term money coming into capital markets.
 


Kulmanji,
Your first information is right about these people investing surplus money in MF through SIP/STP.

However, based on my close interaction with these guys as well as MF Agents, there after behaviour is as follows:

1. They continue investing till the time market is rising/ expected to rise.
2. A month or more of down time for them is very difficult to accept.
3. they are used to see NAV almost every second day anticipating rise in the value of fund they have invested last week.
4. If a person has invested for more than 1 yr and has received decent gain (say 25%+) the MF Agent adivises them to withdraw the money to avoid any loss. This creates a golden opportunity for agent to make him invest in NFO if market does not drop or in some other popular fund if market falls little bit. We all know agent achieves his goal.
5. Generally these agents starts bringing new story of some successfull fund doing great in the current time and lures the person to start new SIP. once he gets trapped after some time, he will ask him to withdraw money from the old fund.

The investor feels great about the constant monitoring/ help extended by the agent!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is probably very first time that on TED i am seeing many youngster from this industry being really serious/ knowledgeable about their investment.
Which has certainly changed my general opinion for them.

However, still a large community out of them is victim to those agents, who do not loose a single opprotunity to suck some commission money out of their investable fund.


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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 01/Jul/2007 at 4:47pm
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Majority of the MF agents/Advisors fall in the categories of what you mentioned. Their sole goal is earning commission so they promote 'churning'/'switching'/'asset+sector allocation' etc...
 
And you are absolutely right about investors checking their portfolio every night! Those websites give pie-charts, comparatives & what not!!
 
But things are slowly changing. People are getting more aware of the realities. Internet plays a huge role in creating this awareness. e.g. TED.
 
Looking to the ever increasing wll paid youngsters putting a part of their income into equities (via MF or direct), domestic flows are set to rise multi-fold. That was the point which I wanted to emphasise.
 
 
 
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 01/Jul/2007 at 4:57pm

Youngsters that you are talking about are mostly influenced by parents. A car, tax saving schemes and then real estate (aka aparment) are generally the priority.

A large percentage of DINKs (Double Income No Kids) are owning apartments - and sometimes 50 -75% of their salaries go into paying home loan EMIs.
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Quote us121 Replybullet Posted: 01/Jul/2007 at 5:03pm
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Looking to the ever increasing wll paid youngsters putting a part of their income into equities (via MF or direct), domestic flows are set to rise multi-fold. That was the point which I wanted to emphasise.
 
  


Agreed Sir and we wish this flow remains in market for long term.
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