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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 26/May/2007 at 8:49am

This thread did see some interesting posts last night but financial sense says that no insurance is necessary once you have the requisite networth. STill while we can do away with Life insurance we should have a health insurance (no logic here except to suggest that it lends mental strength). ALso that the doctors are charging more is the insurance company's headache and they calculate it while fixing the premium so if you want a Rs 1 lac cover take a 1.5 lac cover to adjust for over billing etc.

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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 26/May/2007 at 10:40am
STill while we can do away with Life insurance
 
Can you clarify on this? Life insurance is not necessary for those with high networth or do you mean life insurance is not necessary for those without dependants?
 
Every magazine/article says life insurance is necessary because my dependents can have the same standard of living after I become swarg vaas. What is the formula to calculate the amount of life insurance required? For eg -
 
- A family of 4 has a monthly expenditure of Rs. 30,000. What should be the sum assured of the husband's (age 35) insurance policy (assuming wife is not working).
 
- Another example - A family's networth is Rs. 50 Lacs. What should be the husband's insurance sum assured?
 
 
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Quote omshivaya Replybullet Posted: 26/May/2007 at 10:50am
Very good questions smartcat jee.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 26/May/2007 at 11:02am
Originally posted by smartcat

STill while we can do away with Life insurance
 
Can you clarify on this? Life insurance is not necessary for those with high networth or do you mean life insurance is not necessary for those without dependants?
 
Every magazine/article says life insurance is necessary because my dependents can have the same standard of living after I become swarg vaas. What is the formula to calculate the amount of life insurance required? For eg -
 
- A family of 4 has a monthly expenditure of Rs. 30,000. What should be the sum assured of the husband's (age 35) insurance policy (assuming wife is not working).
 
- Another example - A family's networth is Rs. 50 Lacs. What should be the husband's insurance sum assured?
 
 
 
 
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Quote vivekkumar_in Replybullet Posted: 26/May/2007 at 11:13am
I read somewhere, the question a prudent Life Insurance seller used to ask to his prospective client
" How long do you prepare to be dead ? "

Very thought provoking question. That will start putting things in perspective for how much should you have Life Insurance cover.

I do agree with Om ji that Term Insurance provides the max bang for the buck for Life Insurance. You will get max coverage, with less premium. Any other type of life insurance policy is waste & ULIP is criminal waste..

The intent of Life insurance is that your dependents should not see any change in their financial status by your loss....

Your coverage should be say 10 times your family's annual spending + Debts(House loans, auto loans etc) .. Ppl typically miss this debt component in this calculation.. In these days of sky high EMI , if you have not accounted this in the Life Insurance calculations, the dependents couls soon lose the home on  the breadwinner's demise..

On health insurance front, I do think you need health insurance.. Coverage can depend on the age & no. of dependents you have..


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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 26/May/2007 at 11:33am
Om jee at his best due to Saturday night fever !!
 
 
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Quote champ123 Replybullet Posted: 04/Sep/2010 at 6:33pm
Yes health insuranceis really necessary for us. In future any problem than health insurance helps you.
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Quote Monkey Replybullet Posted: 04/Sep/2010 at 8:08pm

 

This is first time I came across this thread. I think insurance is not really necessary in certain situations. For exmple, if a person has networth of 2 crores (excluding illquid investments like properties), why should he take health insurance of 3 lacs? Ideally, such person should set-up contigency fund of 3 lacs lying in 2-in-1 FD with a bank which can be immediately accessed at the time of need rather than paying premium to insurance company and get into whole hassels of making claims. With networth of 2 crores, setting aside 3 lacs should not be a problem.

Same is applicable for life insurance. If a peron has networth such that dependents can live off that money, life insurance is not required. My approach towards calculating life inurance need is to calculate annual expenses, multiply it by 33 (considering 3% withdrawl rate), deduct person's networth excluding self occupied property and add any liability like loans to it. The result is the amount of insurance required. This needs to be covered by means of a few number of term policies. This need needs to be reviewed every year.


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