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Quote prashantmohta Replybullet Posted: 21/Mar/2008 at 12:50pm

in US one company called taufni (spelling is incorrect) whose market cap is 24000 cr.whether ratan tata will be aggressive or not or it could go TRENT way.



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Quote luke123 Replybullet Posted: 21/Mar/2008 at 12:53pm
Basant ji, does price of gold affect their balance sheet?? I mean e.g gold falls from 13000 to say 8000. Do they hold too much inventory to take a forex like hit on Balance sheet or vice versa on the opposite side.

I have been to the Titan Eye showroom in Koramangala. Pretty ordinary range. Foreign Branded stuff was good but too expensive for me to buy.

Best part for me was their ROCE nos. Those are quite staggering.

Thanks again for fantastic write up.

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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 21/Mar/2008 at 1:15pm
Gold is a pass through.But surely prices going up and down affect the value of invesntory. But surely they should be hedging their positions.
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 21/Mar/2008 at 1:16pm
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Gold is a pass through.But surely prices going up and down affect the value of invesntory. But surely they should be hedging their positions.
 
You mean on Commodity exchanges?
 
 
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Quote Ajith Replybullet Posted: 21/Mar/2008 at 1:29pm
    Rising gold prices will boost profits while falls should result in losses.This is based on analysis I have read earlier and seems reasonable.
If gold prices fall,however,Titan will probably zoom.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 21/Mar/2008 at 1:36pm
No, I do not think this one is so much dependent on Gold! Otherwise it is a quasi Gold company. The earnings do not show that. Otherwise the company would have has an eratic earnings profile.
 
There would be appropriate mechanisms to control price risks.
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 21/Mar/2008 at 1:49pm
Jewellers earn based on design/making charges on per gram basis which may not directly linked to prevailing gold prices.
 
So whatever growth Titan achieves would be by higher volumes.
 
 
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Quote Ajith Replybullet Posted: 21/Mar/2008 at 2:02pm
 I meant profits/losses on inventory held.
 A significant part of Titans valuation is due to bright prospects for its gold business which would be affected if income is on per gram basis as there will no doubt be some slowdown in short term as already gold imports are substantially down.There could also be an expectation of getting gold cheaper.
    Oil prices coming down and gold prices as well would be the best news for Titan.

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