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Hi vivek, no one knows castrol better then you, u have done a full scale research in castrol, by the way i am holding shares of glaxo smithline(ex div 30.10.08) Rs 10 , but have nil holding in castrol. Exited long time back in 2006. i like glaxosmithline, HLL, nestle. All good div paying stocks with stability in price.
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Ajith
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Hope Nestle does not ever take the delisting route.
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will not mind if de-listing happens in 2000-2200 price range, will then invest those money in P&G and colgate.
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valueman
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Originally posted by Ajith
Hope Nestle does not ever take the delisting route.
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Can any one explain the reasons why a company wants to Delist and more specifically NESTLE ?
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shivkumar
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Originally posted by Hitesh Shah
More of Nestle's prducts fall under the daily staples category whereas Titan sales are more of the feel good variety. In times of stress, I'd feel Nestle's sales would be less affected than Titan's.
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If you know what Nestle makes, none of its offerings may be called daily staples! HUL offers more daily staples, better reach, etc than Nestle. But all of them are falling prey to small regional players in the Indian market who are much more nimble-footed.
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FMCG
Fast moving consumer goods (FMCG) companies in the business of personal care and food products reported strong sales growth, while cigarette firms, which have diversified into agro and FMCG products, had modest sales growth in the second quarter. However, the net profit growth for food products and personal care firms was around 15 per cent, while for cigarette firms it was around 5 per cent.
Operating margins for all the three categories declined by 150-300 basis points as many companies could not pass on the higher raw material cost to consumers due to price competitions. Most FMCG companies could not be benefited from easing commodity prices as these firms had high raw material inventory levels.
Analysts expect sales growth momentum to continue due to an expected demand growth from rural consumers. Rural income and sentiment are on an uptick due to food price inflation, farm loan waiver, satisfactory monsoon and employment generation schemes. Rural consumers account for 50 per cent of FMCG consumption. Correction in commodity prices and ad rates is likely to boost margins in the fourth quarter. Analysts expect soap and detergent players, in particular, and all FMCG players, in general, to benefit from the correction in crude oil prices.
FMCG analysts at Motilal Oswal research have lowered volume growth estimates in some product categories such as toilet soaps, detergents and paints due to reduction in consumer demand. The slowdown in construction activity would impact paints demand growth. The decline in prices of key inputs such as palm oil, LAB and packaging have come down from their highs.
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NP |
HUL |
19.71 |
37.11 |
33.95 |
ITC |
15.08 |
30.79 |
4.13 |
Nestle India |
22.15 |
31.01 |
13.53 |
Britannia Inds |
27.29 |
35.52 |
9.96 |
Nirma |
40.4 |
65.24 |
-97.88 |
Total |
20.86 |
36.45 |
10.55 |
According to FMCG analysts at Edelweiss Securities, Hindustan Unilever (HUL) and Godrej Consumer Products (GCPL) are likely to be the biggest beneficiaries of the meltdown in commodity prices. For HUL, soap and detergents account for 44 per cent of net sales, while for GCPL, soaps account for 60 per cent of its standalone sales. Falling palm oil, LAB and crude oil prices augur well for all FMCG companies as these are key inputs for making soaps, detergents and packaging materials respectively.
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PS- Couldn't find a sector thread on FMCG to post this
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Sharad
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I Think except for Nestle Maggi noodles and Chocolates they have cut throat competition with small players . I haven't seen too many people using Nestle milk products everyday . People still like to buy their milk products from the local dhoodwala/dairy .
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Originally posted by Sharad
I Think except for Nestle Maggi noodles and Chocolates they have cut throat competition with small players . I haven't seen too many people using Nestle milk products everyday . People still like to buy their milk products from the local dhoodwala/dairy . |
You are forgetting baby powder and food! Lactogen, NAN and Cerelac have such strong franchise that they have little competition. Recession or no recession, babies will keep on getting born and they will need these products. Also fancy the children have for maggie noodles(and now soups too) is to be seen to be believed. The outperformance in price wrt index is because of all these factors.
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