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Quote chimak10 Replybullet Posted: 27/Apr/2009 at 8:16pm
well i recall reading one old RJ interview.......where he mentioned that he invested in mcdowell just on MCAP basis.......his reasoning was Mcdowell was available around 400cr marketcap with around 40% of beer market in india.......so he bought it........i recall he also said about management quality that he didn't put much thought about it.....his mantra was invest first investigate later.

his interview in outlook profit he was talking about JET AIRWAYS in the same way.......that JET is available at such a small market cap

RJ made money in pantaloon which has negative cash flow.

and i also read somewhere about prof mankekar.........and his great theory about valueing company on free cash flow........and the dude made his money in pantaloon..........
and buffett in CNBC interview talked about why he bought in sep - 08 was that the spread for the bank was so large that they were historical high level. banks were borrowing money at almost zero %

well but this guys are biggies...........

to me most of this stuff goes over my head.

i belive best investment are where u don't think too much.......i had that kindda of thought in 2002.....about bhel........that india needs more power......bhel is good company........that's all.
And u don't get into too much variables and that kindda of exotic stuff.

edit : and u also need frigging bull run we just had.... it will take care of all the miscalculation on anyones part. just buy stock cheap.

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Quote chimak10 Replybullet Posted: 27/Apr/2009 at 8:40pm
Originally posted by kannanravi1

Hi Subu,    Good point. My gut feel too is that they are macro calls. But I guess RJ has had a history of success on macro calls. He apparently also has friends 'at the right places' (read inside) to give him a better feel for company, sector etc. Does anyone know at what average P/Es did RJ acquire CRISIL, Titan etc at?



how does insider help when RJ is holding CRISIL for longer then decade.........same with karur vyasa bank?

with roller coster ride in crisil stock price


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Quote kannanravi1 Replybullet Posted: 27/Apr/2009 at 12:19pm
Hi Chimak sir,
     You are right. CRISIL and Karur are truely long term holdings and I love both these picks. Infact I own CRISIL and wanted to accumulate Karur but didnt ahve funds. I was just making a statement from some articles I had read long back where the comment was RJ used to be a solid trader at one point and had a lot of insider info. Some of his marginal picks could still be trading calls. Thats all I meant. Have nothing against RJ personally. Infact, I think the guy is a pretty decent fellow. Decent enough that I would marry my daughter off to his son in a heart beat :)...(hypothetical really - neither do I have a daughter nor he a son....just going by what Buffett said once about a CEO that he liked)..:)
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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 27/Apr/2009 at 12:28pm
He He....nice one.
 
 
I also heard these rumours about RJ knowing about S&P acquisition from some investors. Seemed like envy to me.
 
Kannanravi, if it's ok would you be able to share your value of Crisil?


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Quote chimak10 Replybullet Posted: 27/Apr/2009 at 12:38pm
plz don't call me sir yarr......i am just a mungerilal.

I just went on a mindless rant...........

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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 27/Apr/2009 at 12:40pm
No, you made a good point. I think these greats develop a knack for value.
 
Not the exact value but Hey this seems cheap sort of sense.
 
For e.g. Warren Buffett never does any calculation but is aware of values.
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Quote kannanravi1 Replybullet Posted: 27/Apr/2009 at 2:26am
Originally posted by chimak10

plz don't call me sir yarr......i am just a mungerilal.

I just went on a mindless rant...........


Ok mungerilal sir then :)....but you did bring a great point. I am sure RJ has seen something i these picks
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Quote chimak10 Replybullet Posted: 29/Apr/2009 at 2:25pm
From RD's chat

pulkit7667: sir can u share ....on what parameters do u decide whether a particular stock is worth investing or not

Ramesh Damani: one imp criteria is mcap to my perceived value of the business....the greater the discrepancy the more the value


What the frigg........
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