Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  CalendarCalendar  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin

Words of Wisdom
 The Equity Desk Forum :Market Strategies :Words of Wisdom
Message Icon Topic: How much of your Networth is in Equities? Post Reply Post New Topic
Page  of 5 Next >>
Author Message
basant
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar

Joined: 01/Jan/2006
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 18403
Quote basant Replybullet Topic: How much of your Networth is in Equities?
    Posted: 19/Jan/2013 at 8:11am
Everyone starts from a very low base and most of them end at that same number as well so this is no unique problem to have what matters is how we turn the low base into an advantage by aggressive betting and portfolio allocation. If you think that your capital is tiny and you can afford to lose it please apologize me for my saying but "you will". Its the tough to make your first five lacs, hard to take it upto ten lacs, difficult to put that to twenty five lacs and than it gets easy.

So please throw away the notion that your portfolio is small and you can afford to lose it by betting aggressively. A better strategy would be to buy long dated Nifty Calls.

Pantaloon is history and I have discussed a lot so any more discussion would be a repetition.

Originally posted by excel_monkey

First
One needs capital to preserve it   

We all have such a tiny amount of our net worth invested in equity that we probably don't mind loosing it all or taking a stock to 30% of our portfolio.

Basant Bhai how has your risk perception changed compared to when you started investing (pantaloon days)? Do you think making enormous returns with risk makes an investor more aggressive or more conservative?
What was the single most important event which changed your risk perception 180 degree?
Would be great to learn from your experience.

Thanks in advance

Originally posted by basant

Actually if you look at it closely an Arshiya can hit any of us any day. So while it looks good to celebrate that we were not there the point is that this is a market and runs the risk of eating anyone anyday. For example it looked so simple in 2007 and yet 2008 seemed like a landmine for all of us. This market does not spare Steinhardt, Robertson, Livermore. Even the guy who ET regularly calls Old Fox (the largest investor in VST Industries) was in exile from the market for several years after having lost a significant part of his networth in Oil marketing companies. The key question is if you were diversified as I guess all these big names were than its a part of the game because the pain isn't as much as the public thinks it to be but if as an amateur retail investor he were looking to put 30% of his portfolio in such companies than its an expensive lesson learnt.


Edited by basant - 19/Jan/2013 at 8:15am
'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in
IP IP Logged
shivkumar
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 02/Oct/2007
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2037
Quote shivkumar Replybullet Posted: 19/Jan/2013 at 11:12am
Aap ke moonh mein shakkarWink
IP IP Logged
rajnsharma
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 31/Jul/2009
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1202
Quote rajnsharma Replybullet Posted: 19/Jan/2013 at 11:21am
Originally posted by excel_monkey

First
One needs capital to preserve it   

We all have such a tiny amount of our net worth invested in equity that we probably don't mind loosing it all or taking a stock to 30% of our portfolio.

Surprising to see such a comment from a very active boarder. I hope this is not the case with you.
 
PS: All of my personal wealth except the home I live in, are in equity and I have no regrets. TED(and Basantjee ofcourse) has changed my perspective and I have been able to compound at TED standard rates in last 4 years.
Wall Street makes money by it's activity, while you can make money by your in-activity - Warren Buffett
IP IP Logged
prabhakarkudva
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 16/Jan/2008
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1624
Quote prabhakarkudva Replybullet Posted: 19/Jan/2013 at 11:28am
Same here.

All my net worth into equities and all because of TED and the man who is running it.

Excel ji your statement might be true for moneycontrol forums but definitely not on TED :)

We all mind big time losing 30% of our portfolio.
Take your chances and keep them in a box until a quieter time.
IP IP Logged
rajnsharma
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 31/Jul/2009
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1202
Quote rajnsharma Replybullet Posted: 19/Jan/2013 at 11:44am
Originally posted by prabhakarkudva

Same here.

All my net worth into equities and all because of TED and the man who is running it.

Excel ji your statement might be true for moneycontrol forums but definitely not on TED :)

We all mind big time losing 30% of our portfolio.
This is really good.
Wall Street makes money by it's activity, while you can make money by your in-activity - Warren Buffett
IP IP Logged
FutureBull
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 06/Feb/2009
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1868
Quote FutureBull Replybullet Posted: 19/Jan/2013 at 11:50am
Rajji,

I think you should also help define networth. Lot of folks would be inheriting fixed assets/gold and that would skew the ratio. Despite investing all my savings in equity it is still below 20% of all my wealth. If I consider asset created by myself it would be closer to 60-70% and it is because my real estate has appreciated handsomely during last 12 months.
‘The market always does what it’s supposed to — BUT NEVER WHEN’.
IP IP Logged
rohit1889
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 25/Jun/2011
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 518
Quote rohit1889 Replybullet Posted: 19/Jan/2013 at 11:50am
Though my networth is small(Age 23 and currently a student), My savings during 2 years of my job are into equities..

I guess with a small portfolio, one should calculated bets.. like betting 30% of portfolio on stocks like Hawkins, Maruti,etc. when they face temporary problem..
(This is ideal thing to do for large portfolios as well)
If you're prepared to invest in a company, then you ought to be able to explain why in simple language that a fifth grader could understand, and quickly enough so the fifth grader won't get bored.
IP IP Logged
rajnsharma
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 31/Jul/2009
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1202
Quote rajnsharma Replybullet Posted: 19/Jan/2013 at 11:55am
Originally posted by FutureBull

Rajji,

I think you should also help define networth. Lot of folks would be inheriting fixed assets/gold and that would skew the ratio. Despite investing all my savings in equity it is still below 20% of all my wealth. If I consider asset created by myself it would be closer to 60-70% and it is because my real estate has appreciated handsomely during last 12 months.
I have one house to live in. I never invested in gold. Wife's jewellarys are not an investment. Hence effectively I don't have exposure to any other asset class.
Wall Street makes money by it's activity, while you can make money by your in-activity - Warren Buffett
IP IP Logged
Page  of 5 Next >>
Post Reply Post New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



This page was generated in 0.125 seconds.
Bookmark this Page