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Quote deveshkayal Replybullet Topic: Pre Budget Show! Bulls vs. the Bears!
    Posted: 28/Feb/2008 at 9:06am

If anyone missed yesterday's show on Budget, then Click here 

Samir Arora said "RJ is a famed speculator". He said new highs is quite possible. Editor of a personal finance also told me that "RJ is more of a speculator than a investor".
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Quote nitin_jagtap Replybullet Posted: 28/Feb/2008 at 9:14am
Samir is taking on the bull by its horns Clap .....and also Jaykes taking on Shankar Sharma was good
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Quote Ajith Replybullet Posted: 28/Feb/2008 at 9:40am
    SA /NJ were incredibly optimistic yesterday on CNBC and logically faultless.But in the short -term they have stuck their neck out and RJ/RD may well be right.
             SA is definitely right in the sense that there are individual companies in the market that will trade much higher by the end of this calender year and thats no secret.
     


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Quote investor Replybullet Posted: 28/Feb/2008 at 9:58am
was this referring to SS?

Q: You agree with that point of view?

 

Jayakumar: We have had several people, these I consider as the oldest bastions of the bull market, who one month back came and talked about a 25,000 market. India is not even a developed market, it is a developing market and country. What has happened is somewhere along the line. The fact that there are no highways or bridges was known six months ago or three years ago, it is not necessarily known only one month ago. The issue here is that somewhere along the line we have taken it upon ourselves to worry more about these issues. It is a joke in our office that at 4 pm everyday they click on to a Bloomberg’s Eco-US page to figure out what economic indicators in the US are going to be release that day. It is unbelievable.



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Samir is taking on the bull by its horns Clap .....and also Jaykes taking on Shankar Sharma was good
The market is a place where people with money meet people with experience.
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Quote nitin_jagtap Replybullet Posted: 28/Feb/2008 at 10:12am
Yes he was refering to SS and after that even Udayan mentioned that SS comments have had a far reaching effect on many viewers.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 28/Feb/2008 at 10:20am

Samir is head and shoulders above the average Joe on the street. But because the other side of the argument came from RJ makes one think twice. But I have realised that this thinking is only academic. Would we actually sell out and be in cash? At least I am not in that camp. So while we can argue debate and analyse the existence of the bull market the point is that none of the arguments can make me sell stock and be in cash.

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Quote Mohan Replybullet Posted: 28/Feb/2008 at 10:22am

Samir Arora: Let’s look at what are the issues that are facing our markets right now. First of all to say that it won’t be like last year is not a great thing to say because obviously last year the market was 70%. So, to say it is not up like the year before it has no value. The value is, will you make more than the 8% or 7% that you get in your bank or in your mutual funds for fixed income or whatever. That is the whole idea of choosing between equity and debt. It is not like, will you make as much money as last year? No, you will. Even I agree.

But let’s look at all the problems that we are facing today and saying that they are problems of our market. Firstly, foreign investors are not buying.

 

Secondly, retail investors are not buying. Thirdly, IPOs are not going through.

In December, foreign investors were buying, retail investors were buying, IPOs were getting oversubscribed 100 times. So, where did that lead you one month later. If the simultaneous presence of all these factors in December could not give you returns one month out, why has the absence of these factors taken such a big deal? Do you think the world will wait to see if some high networth guy in India has the confidence or not? The bottomline is in the month of February, the market is up more than 3%, which I think in any definition is a good return for this month. So, why are we thinking beyond January that India is not going anywhere? 3% is not a bad return at a time when we all think that it is not doing anything. The market does not have to go 40% to call it a bull run. If it does better than its alternatives for the retail investors in India, it is a good enough reason to be in equity and then it takes on from there.

 
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Quote investor Replybullet Posted: 28/Feb/2008 at 10:40am
I also agree that Samir is always a pleasure listening to - somehow he
seems to have more of that one thing which every one else seems to lack - common sense!!

But little confused about your stmt on moving to cash - my interpretation of yesterdays show was that none of them were implying its better to move into cash or anything like that. Or did i get it wrong?

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Samir is head and shoulders above the average Joe on the street. But because the other side of the argument came from RJ makes one think twice. But I have realised that this thinking is only academic. Would we actually sell out and be in cash? At least I am not in that camp. So while we can argue debate and analyse the existence of the bull market the point is that none of the arguments can make me sell stock and be in cash.

The market is a place where people with money meet people with experience.
The people with experience get the money while people with money get experience!
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