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    Posted: 21/Jul/2007 at 11:39pm
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COCA COLA & BUFFET (source: article here)

 

Throughout 1988 and 1989, Warren Buffett acquired more than $1 billion of Coca-Cola (KO) stock. At the time, Wall Street thought he was downright crazy. After all, Wall Street scrutinized the purchase and deduced that Buffett has paid way too much for earnings and the stock price was high—having run up 18% a year for eight years.

 

In 1988, Wall Street said Coca-Cola was a bad stock to buy. Warren Buffett thought it was a wonderful business to own. The results speak for themselves; so, let's look at the reasoning behind Warren Buffett's most famous purchase.

 

The Cash Cow

From 1978 through 1987, Coca-Cola's Free Cash Flow grew at a median rate of 21.8% a year. Then again, Coca-Cola's Free Cash Flow grew fairly steadily each year—a definite plus!

 

The Net Worth

Coca-Cola's Shareholder Equity had been growing about 7.8% a year. Not stellar by any means, but it was consistent and predictable—both staples in the Buffett approach to investing. The growth rate of Shareholder Equity becomes critically important only when you expect your company to close up shop in the next twenty years—clearly not in the stars for Coca-Cola.

 

Management And Money

Coca-Cola had a median CROIC of 9.3% for ten years. For every dollar of capital invested in the company, Coca-Cola was generating $0.09 of cash. Then again, Coca-Cola was a special situation because of its brand and moat.

 

Brand And Moat

A company that needs no introduction, Coca-Cola was the company in the beverage industry...and in the world. It dominated the market and had no serious competition. Picture a world where there was practically no Pepsi, Snapple, or bottled water on the shelves—just Coke. That is pretty much 1988. In 1988, you would have been hard pressed to find a more well-known name than Coca-Cola. Now that is moat.

 

The Valuation

Assuming the company could continue to grow Free Cash Flow at 21.8% a year for ten years, and then slowed to 5% thereafter, and assuming Buffett wanted a 15% or more average annual return, you could value Coca-Cola at $22.3 billion, or $59.16 a share in 1988.

For new readers: The $22.3 billion is made up of $2.09 billion of Shareholder Equity and the net present value of the estimated $98.89 billion of future cash flow, discounted at 15% for a handsome return.

 

The Purchase

Of course, you shouldn't pay full price for a company—even one as solid as Coca-Cola. If the future is a little less rosy than you projected, your returns head south. So, you need a discount. Being an industry leader (the industry leader), Coca-Cola could have been purchased with as little as a 25% Margin Of Safety (discount). At a 25% discount to value, Coca-Cola could have been purchased at any time at or below $44.37. In 1988, the company's stock traded between $35 and $45.25, giving Buffett a discount between 24% and 41%.

 

The Result

Today, Buffett's stock in Coca-Cola is worth more than $10 billion, and he collects more than $270 million a year in dividends. Not bad, considering how easy it was to find the value in this "no-brainer" investment.

 

What Wall Street Said

Wall Street thought Buffett was nuts. In 1987, earnings were down nearly 2% from their 1986 peak—surely not the sign of a growing company! With a price-to-earnings ratio of 14 to 19, the company seemed fairly valued at best, if not overvalued.

 

And once again, Buffett showed the world why Wall Street's earnings mean nothing to the business investor, how to invest like a business owner, and why you are right when your data and reasoning are right—not because the crowd agrees or disagrees.

 

 

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Basant jee, Coke jaisa Moat kaunsi Indian company ke paas hain? Brand Equity, Moat aur Addiction dekha jaaye toh TV18 comes to mind.

 

  

 

 
 
Though I may be biased but today CNBC and moneycontrol have become the biggest brands in their industry. Clearly these guys have displayed that irrespective of the analysts going worngh most of the time people remain glued to their TV sets. Even Vivek Sukhani and Kulman and basant and everybody else see CNBC irrespective of what we feel about the experts who come on air.
 
See stock prices are a commoditry business so why is it that people remain glued to CNBC? I have no answers.


Edited by basant - 21/Jul/2007 at 12:21pm
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 21/Jul/2007 at 11:53pm
Apart from that any other names in other sectors come to your mind with a focus on Brand, Moat, Pricing power and most importantly visible growth over a longish period of say 8~10 years?
 
 
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 21/Jul/2007 at 12:00pm
The old HDFC bank, LIC is there but not listed, COlgate and HUL are past their prime so lots of brand but no growth (sounds funny). I think someone on this site mentioned that the next big brands would come from the internet industry, google, yahoo, naukri etc.
 
The trick is to look for growth with brand.Airtel is one but at Rs 1500 - Rs 2000 we could be nearing terminal value for Bharti in terms of high growth. Anyone with some ideas on this one. SOunds interesting to do this analysis brands with visible growth. 
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 21/Jul/2007 at 12:13pm
Originally posted by ramki830

 I think that portals would be the hottest and most profitable business by 2010. By that time, all the fringe players would have died and the only ones with brand (or web address)recall would survive.  And there is this rule of thumb that as years roll on, Technology fads become habits and  habits owned by businesses become brands. Orkut, Yahoo, Hotmail, Rediff, bharat matrimony could be brands valued at par or even more than a Surf or a Colgate or a Pepsi.

Why not?

What do others say

 
This interesting post was made sometime back in the thread IT leaders.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 21/Jul/2007 at 12:18pm
But we should look at companies that are maintaining or protecting market shares. I was disappointed to see Naukri losing market share to 37% from 50%. This indicates that growth is being dilutive to company.
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Quote omshivaya Replybullet Posted: 21/Jul/2007 at 12:31pm
Yes, I was about to mention TV18 as my choice for the brand. Basant sir, you beat me to it!!
 
Also I feel Pantaloon is a solid brand in the making. It is half-way there.
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 21/Jul/2007 at 2:03am

In 2005, INFOSYS got their brand name evaluated by professionals and the value came to around Rs. 14,000 crores .

In India, the biggest brand name is and will remain 'RELIANCE'. Just the name put on a store selling ladies fingers and brinjals is enough to pull in hordes of people. It is not the prices or the quality - it is sheer brand pull.
 
Reliance Capital being so successful with the brokerage/insurance business is partly due to the brand name associated with it.
 
BISLERI is another solid Indian brand name that comes to my mind. Very few people go to stores and ask for 'mineral water'. They ask for a 'Bisleri'.
 
PVR/INOX might achieve a decent brand value in the future. Whenever a new movie is released, the first thing a large number of youngsters do is logon to PVR or Inox website to do online booking.
 
Suzuki owns majority stake in MARUTI. But they sell cars under the Maruti banner, unlike in other countries where they sell it as a Suzuki. Care to venture a guess as to why it is so? :)
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Quote nikhil090 Replybullet Posted: 21/Jul/2007 at 8:43am

 e-choupal (for itc) and dabur are also good brands.. trusted by people in their segments.

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