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Quote kanagala Replybullet Posted: 30/Oct/2008 at 12:11pm
Is IDFC considered as a public sector holding? Then, why did it command those crazy valuations few months back.
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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 30/Oct/2008 at 1:02pm

  Corporate Information
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Company Name INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT FINANCE COMPANY LIMITED
NSE Symbol IDFC
Quarter Ended on 30-SEP-2008

Promoters  |  Public > 1%  |  Locked-in  |  Depository Receipts  |  Depository Receipts 1%

Statement showing Shareholding Pattern


Sr. No Category of shareholder Number of shareholders Total number of shares Number of shares held in de materialized form % of shares (A+B) % of shares (A+B+C)
(A) Shareholding of Promoter and Promoter Group
(1) Indian
(a) Individuals/ Hindu Undivided Family 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(b) Central Government/ State Government(s) 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(c) Bodies Corporate 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(d) Financial Institutions/ Banks 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(e) Any Other (specify)


0 0 0 0 0

Sub-Total (A)(1) 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(2) Foreign
(a) Individuals (Non- Resident Individuals/ Foreign Individuals) 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(b) Bodies Corporate 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(c) Institutions 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(d) Any Other (specify)


0 0 0 0 0

Sub-Total (A)(2) 0 0 0 0.00 0.00

Total Shareholding of Promoter and Promoter Group (A)= (A)(1)+(A)(2) 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(B) Public shareholding
(1) Institutions
(a) Mutual Funds/ UTI 126 109532259 109532259 8.46 8.46
(b) Financial Institutions/ Banks 44 90517051 90517051 6.99 6.99
(c) Central Government/ State Government(s) 1 261400000 261400000 20.18 20.18
(d) Venture Capital Funds 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(e) Insurance Companies 17 99978821 99978821 7.72 7.72
(f) Foreign Institutional Investors 226 403834044 403834044 31.18 31.18
(g) Foreign Venture Capital Investors 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
(h) Any Other (specify)

Foreign Financial Institutions ( Throu' FDI) 3 113400000 113400000 8.76 8.76

Sub-Total (B)(1) 417 1078662175 1078662175 83.29 83.29
(2) Non-institutions
(a) Bodies Corporate 3441 64111457 64110457 4.95 4.95
(b) Individuals
(i) Individual shareholders holding nominal share capital up to Rs. 1 lakh 354912 108700696 108671465 8.39 8.39
(ii) Individual shareholders holding nominal share capital in excess of Rs. 1 lakh 1013 43270144 43270144 3.34 3.34
(c) Any Other (specify)

Trusts 46 472529 472529 0.04 0.04

Sub-Total(B)(2) 359412 216554826 216524595 16.72 16.72

Total Public Shareholding (B)= (B)(1)+(B)(2) 359829 1295217001 1295186770 100.01 100.01

TOTAL(A)+(B) 359829 1295217001 1295186770 100.00 100.00
(C) Shares held by Custodians and against which Depository Receipts have been issued 0 0 0
0.00

GRAND TOTAL (A)+(B)+(C) 359829 1295217001 1295186770
100.00

Promoters  |  Public > 1%  |  Locked-in  |  Depository Receipts  |  Depository Receipts 1%

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Quote paragdesai Replybullet Posted: 30/Oct/2008 at 1:17pm
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Is IDFC considered as a public sector holding? Then, why did it command those crazy valuations few months back.
 
IDFC can not qualify as pure PSU. GOI is holding only 20%. Though company was initiated by GOI & understand that run by professional management without any interference from GOI.
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Quote tarkeshwar Replybullet Posted: 02/Nov/2008 at 3:39pm
This is an interesting and rather important thread.

I have a qus. How is the experience of being 100% invested in the market been? Are folks able to maneuver successfully from defensive stocks (like HDFC) to aggressive companies, so as to exploit unmistakable "buy when others are fearful" opportunity now?
If one's recurring income is much less than his stock portfolio value, isn't it hard to benefit much from opportunity like this?
My learning now is that it makes more sense to accumulate cash during bull runs, "only" to invest when bad sentiments prevail for a stock. "only" is the operative word and probably the most important difference between legendary investors like Buffett and us mortal souls
   
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Quote valueman Replybullet Posted: 02/Nov/2008 at 9:11am


Can anyone point out where we can get the Graph of the sensex / nifty(i.e when it started )  from 1990s up to date ?

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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 02/Nov/2008 at 9:33am
Originally posted by tarkeshwar

This is an interesting and rather important thread.

I have a qus. How is the experience of being 100% invested in the market been? Are folks able to maneuver successfully from defensive stocks (like HDFC) to aggressive companies, so as to exploit unmistakable "buy when others are fearful" opportunity now?
If one's recurring income is much less than his stock portfolio value, isn't it hard to benefit much from opportunity like this?    
 
1) Experience has been frightening but just short of triggering a distress sale.
 
2) I have tried going into companies that have predictable earnings growth and that includes HDFC bank
 
3) Yes, you cannot put in meaningful money in but that is something one will have to take since had he held some cash since 2003 he wouldn't have made as much as in stocks even after this carnage.
 
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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 02/Nov/2008 at 9:49am
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Can anyone point out where we can get the Graph of the sensex / nifty(i.e when it started )  from 1990s up to date ?


You should try the respective BSE / NSE sites.

In NSE, go to charting and try your luck.

You should also be able to download the data as a .xls or .csv file which you can then import into your favourite spreadsheet / charting programme.
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Quote valueman Replybullet Posted: 02/Nov/2008 at 10:35am
Thanks Hitesh

I went to yahoo.co.in and in the Finance section found a graph for BSE from 1998 and for NSE from 2003 onwards .

Do you have any idea where we can get the Chart of Indian Gold ETFs?
I am searching for the same .



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