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Quote rider.royal Replybullet Posted: 08/Oct/2007 at 1:16am
Just read the complete article posted by basantji, thanks to you for making it so simple to understand for laymen like me.     
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 13/Oct/2007 at 2:22pm
Here's are excerpts from an article written by Mohnish Pabrai almost 5 years ago. Well....some arguments are debatable.
 
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There is a French saying: "Buy on the cannons, and sell on the trumpets!" Whether they were speaking metaphorically or not, that's exactly what Sir John Templeton did.

Templeton is considered by many to be, perhaps, the greatest global stock-picker of the 20th century, so it seems worthwhile to subscribe to his proven theory of buying beaten down-stocks at points of maximum pessimism.
 
The reverse of Templeton's approach would be to buy stocks at points of maximum optimism -- and a good place to find optimism is among the most valued businesses in the world.

If you started with $10,000 invested in the most valuable business when the Fortune 500 list was released in April 1987 (that year it was IBM and every year thereafter reinvested the funds in the new (or same) most valued business, by 2002, you would have realized an annualized gain of just 3.3%. Over the same period, the S&P 500 delivered about 10% annualized.


The Most Valuable Fortune 500 Business (1987-2002)
A strategy based on this table would have trailed the S&P
Year Company Market Cap* Revenue* Net Income*
1987 IBM $89 $51 $4.8
1988 IBM 68 59 5.8
1989 IBM 70 63 5.2
1990 IBM 61 69 6.0
1991 IBM 75 65 2.1
1992 Exxon 69 103 4.8
1993 Exxon 78 100 5.3
1994 GE 90 40 5.9
1995 GE 92 43 6.6
1996 GE 126 46 7.3
1997 GE 170 49 8.2
1998 GE 260 56 10.7
1999 Microsoft 419 20 7.6
2000 Microsoft 492 23 9.4
2001 GE 407 68 14.1
2002 GE 401 73 16.6
*Figures in billions.
Source: 1987-2002 Fortune 500 lists and Value Line

While the data demonstrate the superiority of the maximum pessimism investment approach, there is something interesting at work here. An examination of the table shows that none of the most valued businesses got much beyond $100 billion in revenue or $10 billion to $15 billion in net income.

Is there a natural upper limit on revenue or profitability of a business?

Nature provides some possible answers. Mammals rule the world, but the largest land-based mammal is the elephant. 

Mammals have to eat a lot to generate energy. As a result, mammal size is bounded by the energy a given area of land can consistently supply. It is also bounded by internal organs like the heart, which have to pump blood to the body's extremities. Thus, these extremities are physically constrained from being too far from the heart, and that imposes another size constraint.

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Large businesses have their own extremities. There is a critical need to rapidly get data back and forth between the central organizational heart (CEO) and all the extremities (customers and foot soldiers). Over the last 100 years, the speed and breadth of these arteries have increased dramatically, and with them has grown the size of our largest companies.

There is, however, an upper limit to senior management's ability to accurately process the various inputs regardless of the size or speed of the arteries. This limitation translates into a size constraint on most businesses.

In addition, the most valued business is under constant attack from the marauding invaders who want to unseat it. This leads to what Clay Christensen, author of The Innovator's Dilemma: When New Technologies Cause Great Firms to Fail, described as the disruptive innovation phenomenon -- against which the incumbent is virtually powerless.

The Law

All of this leads to Pabrai's Law of Large Numbers. The ultimate principle of this law is that one would be best off never making an investment in any business that generates more than $3 billion to $4 billion in annual cash flow and is considered a blue-chip. These businesses are very unlikely to be able to endlessly grow cash flow.

Indeed, cash flows are most likely to tread water or start dropping almost immediately after your investment. A few companies will buck the trend, but they're probably not the ones that end up in your portfolio. Over the years, I've taken a pass on many supposedly stellar businesses purely on the basis of the Law of Large Numbers, and I've never regretted it.

Taking insurance while playing Blackjack seems very logical, but it's a sucker's bet. Investing in the most valuable businesses around is no different.
 
 
 
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 16/Mar/2008 at 8:09pm
Originally posted by Vivek Sukhani

 
Its a pity that most people are advising changing from small/midcap to large cap.....when value atrts to emerge people simply turn their back on them.....
 
Earlier I was also a big fan of the small cap thgeme. But over the past 12-18 months I have realised that mroe then the cap it is the scale of opportunity that matters for example cap is important but not the endall.
 
A small cap to make larger returns has to be cheaply valued relatively to a large cap. FOr example if City Union Bank and HDFC bank trade at equal valuations I would prefer HDFC bank and would buy City only if the valautiosn are relatively cheaper!
 
You always learn new things in life and this is something I learnt and intend to practice.
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Quote Janak.merchant1 Replybullet Posted: 16/Mar/2008 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by basant
 
Earlier I was also a big fan of the small cap thgeme. But over the past 12-18 months I have realised that mroe then the cap it is the scale of opportunity that matters for example cap is important but not the endall.
 
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Quote experteye Replybullet Posted: 04/Jun/2008 at 12:21pm

It is not how much we do to find out multibaggers,
but how much INSIGHT we put into doing it.



more risk,more profit but have a vision before taking risk,itis all about investment in equities market.
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Quote sathyamurthy Replybullet Posted: 06/Oct/2008 at 4:29pm
Thanks us 121, I am a newbie. Happened to see yr. post. I fully subscribe to yr views. I would never exchange my 70 kmpl bike for a 17 kmpl car. Moreover, one of my relatives had to sell off his house to pay for the mistake of playing on borrowed capital. I want to be an investor, not a gambler. Anyhow, can you suggest some small cap potential multibaggers for my sake.
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Quote Suresh Makhija Replybullet Posted: 12/Oct/2009 at 5:43pm

Dera members as we are talking about multibaggers yahh thats right first we have to look for the good comapny having huge oppotunity ie scalability and seeing all theses dvelopment as industrialisation is on  increase what i think is that logistic companies have huge opportunity and   potential to be multibagger and clear winner in all logistic companies is  TRANSPORTATION CORPORATION OF INDIA AS THEY HAVE PAN INDIA PRESENCE AND RECENLTY THEY ARE EXPANDING IN OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE SINGAPORE THAILAND HONG KNONG EUROPE USA .AFTER IMPLEMENTAION OF GST  ALSO THEY HAVE  GOOD OPPORTUNITY. AND THE HIDDEN THING IS THAT THEY HAVE GOT 220 PROPERTIES IN ALL  INDIA  AND IT HAS HUGE VALUE WHENEVR IT WILL BE UNLOCKED. SO PLZZ HAVE A LOOK ON THJIS COMPANY

THNAKS AND REGARDS
SURESH
HI I M SURESH AND I LOVE TO INVEST IN STOCK MARKET.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 12/Oct/2009 at 6:05pm
A smaller font and a better color could have carried this message equally well! TCI is a transporter with a capital heavy model and low Return ratios how does one account for bullishness in a company/industry with such low RoE?

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