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Quote johnnybravo Replybullet Posted: 03/Mar/2008 at 12:03pm
Its totally incorrect to push this scheme citing farmer suicides. The most farmer suicides happened in vidarbha and Andhra pradesh and 80% of the farm loans their are from private money lenders. The farmers there pay loans in 30-45% rate of interests - hence they are never able to settle their loans - all contributions always go towards interest, principle hardly changes.

Farmers who have taken loans from private money lenders are the ones who are the MOST affected with high debt. This is because they belong to regions wherein banks haven't reached.

So the farmers who actually are the most hit, still remain affected.

This scheme of thing currently suits the Pawars and other affluent so called farmers, who have carefully used the situation to create a vote bank.

In fact, grapevine is that, Mr. Pawar had instructed his supporters to party hard in their belts of affluence when the scheme is announced, so as to make it feel that its happening at their behest or mercy.
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Quote nitin_jagtap Replybullet Posted: 03/Mar/2008 at 1:09pm
The core issue is private money lenders lending at high int rates...wish some sops/measures could have been done to boost the micro finance structure.
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Quote pramodjain Replybullet Posted: 03/Mar/2008 at 2:35pm

60,000 Cr Mother of all waivers. Let assume there are 50 crore famer in india. It means every farmet has to pay average loan of Rs 60,000/50=12000 Cr. How it can be possible. Please explain ???

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Quote pramodjain Replybullet Posted: 03/Mar/2008 at 2:36pm

60,000 Cr Mother of all waivers. Let assume there are 50 crore famer in india (I think this is a maximum possible figure for farmer). It means every farmet has to pay average loan of Rs 60,000/50=12000 Cr. How it can be possible. Please explain ???



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Quote Janak.merchant1 Replybullet Posted: 03/Mar/2008 at 3:14pm
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60,000 Cr Mother of all waivers. Let assume there are 50 crore famer in india (I think this is a maximum possible figure for farmer). It means every farmet has to pay average loan of Rs 60,000/50=12000 Cr. How it can be possible. Please explain ???

 
Pl calculate properly. 60000 Cr divided by 50 crores farmers = 1200 only yes Rs Twelve hundred. Pl use calculator. Cr will get cancelled.
 
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Quote investor Replybullet Posted: 03/Mar/2008 at 4:38pm
RBI says banks’ farmer NPAs Rs 7,367 cr

The heart of Palaniappan Chidambaram’s fifth Budget speech — the Rs 60,000 crore farm loan waiver — is nowhere to be found in the body of the 2008-09 Budget.

The expenditure list did not refer to it even in small print, like in the case of oil and fertiliser deficits of Rs 18,757 crore kept as an off-budget affair.

Chidambaram has asked for no budgetary support for his gift and yet wants the Parliament to bless the write-off of Rs 60,000 crore of bank money, which represents the hard-earned deposits of people at large —- something over which the Parliament has no control.

When asked, in the absence of budgetary support, where from will the banks find the money to book the write-off, the finance minister has been evasive.

He said the government will provide liquidity to the banks equivalent to the write-off over the period during which they would have recovered the Rs 60,000 crore.

Anyone with a basic understanding of finance and accounts will know that the issue in a write-off, which dents the profit & loss account, is not liquidity, but solvency and capital adequacy.

So the minister seems to have gone wrong on first principles of finance and accounts. Or, if he is right, then the banks must have already made provisions in their profit & loss accounts to cover most of the waiver, and already taken the hit in their balance sheets.

If that is the case, then the finance minister is suppressing a decision that was taken by the banks themselves and palming it off as the “momentous” decision of the UPA government.

More interestingly, according to the latest RBI Report on Trend and Progress of Banking in India 2006-07 [Page 96] the gross NPA of all commercial banks put together was Rs 50,519 crore, out of which the share of NPAs on farmers’ loans was only Rs 7,367 crore.

That is, out of the outstanding farm loans of Rs 230,180 crore, the gross NPA is Rs 7,367 crore. The net, thus, must be far less.

Chidambaram then tells the nation that banks will write off Rs 60,000 crore as bad loans that are irrecoverable.

See the effect of the write off. The net owned funds of scheduled commercial banks as on March 31, 2007, stood at Rs 2,19,174 crore. The write-off would cut out a huge amount from this number and bring it down and undermine capital adequacy.

There’s more: Three disturbing clues indicate that the debt write off decision could be an interpolation in the Budget speech that had already been readied.

All that was perhaps done was to add a para, No. 73, which did not affect the numbers as the waiver was just an oral gift by banks —- there was no use of government money.
There are some interesting clues which bare how the waiver was smuggled into the budget

First, the idea to write off banks’ debt was never in contemplation as other, perhaps better, measures were in the pipeline.

In his 2006-07 Budget speech, Chidabaram had referred to the recommendations of the Dr Radhakrishna Group On Farmers’ Indebtedness and assured the Parliament that he “would act on the report as soon as it is received”, implying that the report would be implemented.

The report, submitted in August 2007, said, contrary to Chidambaram’s view that the debt due to the banks kill the farmers, it is the farmers’ debt obligations to private money lenders that kill them.

The group found that some 74% of credit line for farmers came from private sources at interest ranging from 20% to 36% plus with small farmers who account for 80% of the indebted dependent more on such loans.

The panel had called for social efforts to settle the private debts and also commended one time term loan to the farmers to help them to pay off the exploitative private loans.
In its mid-term review [October 2007], the RBI constituted a working group to examine the panel’s suggestions and submit its views by December 2007 after consulting all stake holders.

The minister’s assurance to the Parliament was being followed up by the Reserve Bank of India. So, till December 2007, at least there could be no proposal for a write-off.
The Radhakrishna Group had zeroed in on the true evil —- private money-lending —- as the villain. But there is not a word in the Budget speech about how to deal with the menace of the killer private lending.

Second, the clue within the minister’s Budget speech is critical. In Paras 10 and 56, Chidambaram says that by March 2008, agricultural credit will exceed the target to top Rs 240,000 crore; for the year 2008-09, he set a target of Rs 280,000.

When Paras 10 and 56 were keyed in, obviously the write-off mentioned was nowhere in the horizon.

Here is the math that indicates that it was a later interpolation.

The figures Rs 240,000 crore for 2007-08 and Rs 280,000 crore for 2008-09 include the amount of Rs 60,000 crore as there was to be no waiver.

Chidambaram had included the amount of Rs 60,000 crore that will remain part of loans outstanding and due a year from now. So the decision to write it off in June 2008 came clearly after keying in of paras 10 and 56.

But at what point in time would this Para 73 have been smuggled in?
A clue again: On February 20, Chidambaram shared dais with Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi and Murali Deora at a farmers’ rally in Rae Bareilly.

Reports say that Sonia asked Chidambaram in front of the farmers “to keep the hardships faced by [among others] farmers in mind, while preparing his Budget”.

Agreeing with her, he told the farmers that the banks “are not doing a favour when they lend money to you” and added, they “are discharging their duty, when they are lending the money”.

If, at Rae Bareilly, Chidambaram reminds banks of their duty to lend, having already decided in New Delhi to write off what was lent earlier, that would be, by inference, great deception.

But with Sonia’s command and the minister’s response at the farmers’ rally, it is more benign to infer that the ‘momentous’ write-off decision was taken at the rally or at a tea after the rally, not at North Block.

source: DNA




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Quote nitin_jagtap Replybullet Posted: 03/Mar/2008 at 6:16pm
Debt waiver: Banks may get cash-bond mix
 
No repayment of interest on outstanding loans.
 
The Rs 60,000 crore farm debt waiver and relief package announced in the Budget may not be just in the form of special securities issued by the government, but involve actual money being reimbursed to them.
 
The banks may have to forgo all interest on the outstanding debt amount. The package is only aimed at recovering the principal amount of the loans extended to nearly 40 million small and marginal farmers across the country.
 
In addition, farmers availing of the loan waiver and relief package may have to agree to some conditions, including committing to not seeking debt relief again for a fixed period of time.
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Quote tigershark Replybullet Posted: 03/Mar/2008 at 9:52pm
it is positive for the psu banks they get npa back,but what has hurt sentiment is that govt interferes with business   although the big question remains from where does the govt bring the money.  forex reserves??
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