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Quote India_Bull Replybullet Posted: 10/Nov/2007 at 4:23pm
Topic: Is Rakesh Jhunjhunwala cautious or bearish?
Posted: Yesterday at 11:15pm By prosperity
Is Rakesh Jhunjhunwala cautious or bearish?
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I don't care - and why should you also care ?
 
We should not care about all these things ... it is those people who did not ride the bus creating bearish or bullish environments..
 
Regardless of social,political,economical crisis or problems, I always look at the company in which I am invested and whether it is showing the growth in the sales,  profits etc.. as I have anticipated...it only makes me bearish or bullish in  the stock irrespective of  the index levels in the market..
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As a market observer, I noticed three thing recently..
 
1. Market crash when SEBI announced the curb on FIIs.. (without adequate details which was made when market had to shut down )--This seems to me a deliberate and planned move by some.
 
2. Huge Rise  and fall of Reliance grp shares (including RPL,RNRL)
 
3. Bullish or bearish statements from the experts in the media depening on their positions in the market...
 
 
 
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Quote India_Bull Replybullet Posted: 10/Nov/2007 at 5:25pm
 International stock markets are catching cold over the weakening dollar, rising oil prices and the prospect of a substantial economic slowdown in the United States. What are we supposed to do, Let’s refer to Warren Buffett’s 1997 letter to shareholders. He says, “ If you expect to be a net saver during the next five years, should you hope for a higher or lower stock market during that period? Many investors get this one wrong. Even though they are going to be net buyers of stocks for many years to come, they are elated when stock prices rise and depressed when they fall. Prospective purchasers should much prefer sinking prices.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 10/Nov/2007 at 6:12pm
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As a market observer, I noticed three thing recently..
 
1. Market crash when SEBI announced the curb on FIIs.. (without adequate details which was made when market had to shut down )--This seems to me a deliberate and planned move by some.
 
2. Huge Rise  and fall of Reliance grp shares (including RPL,RNRL)
 
3. Bullish or bearish statements from the experts in the media depening on their positions in the market...
 
 
 
 
It is quite normal and natural to think that something as being forced upon the regulations in the way the entire P-Note scare came up.
 
I had mentioned about the market grapewine discussing the meeting that RJ,RD,Radhakishan Damani, Kela, Nimesh Shah had with Marathon Ambani just when the Reliance group shares were sent through the roof.
 
Post that meeting it is rumoured that RJ went short on RNRL and the elder RPL and many suggest that he was badly trapped at Rs 60 and Rs 120 respectively and the recent blow off had been a  result of the short covering.
 
Finally all these stories are not confirmed and have originated from the market place.
 
On May 24th 2007 I had inidcated about the meeting (which Devesh also suggested) here.
 
I was also informed about the purani dushmani between India's best investor and India's richest family but would reserve that information because it is not substantiated.
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by basant - 10/Nov/2007 at 6:14pm
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Quote omshivaya Replybullet Posted: 10/Nov/2007 at 6:52pm
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I was also informed about the purani dushmani between India's best investor and India's richest family
 

That means he is on the right path...at least one commonality.

The most important quality for an investor is temperament,not intellect.A temperament that neither derives great pleasure from being with the crowd nor against it
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Quote manishdave Replybullet Posted: 10/Nov/2007 at 9:16pm
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Originally posted by India_Bull

As a market observer, I noticed three thing recently..
 
1. Market crash when SEBI announced the curb on FIIs.. (without adequate details which was made when market had to shut down )--This seems to me a deliberate and planned move by some.
 
2. Huge Rise  and fall of Reliance grp shares (including RPL,RNRL)
 
3. Bullish or bearish statements from the experts in the media depening on their positions in the market...
 
 
 
 
It is quite normal and natural to think that something as being forced upon the regulations in the way the entire P-Note scare came up.
 
I had mentioned about the market grapewine discussing the meeting that RJ,RD,Radhakishan Damani, Kela, Nimesh Shah had with Marathon Ambani just when the Reliance group shares were sent through the roof.
 
Post that meeting it is rumoured that RJ went short on RNRL and the elder RPL and many suggest that he was badly trapped at Rs 60 and Rs 120 respectively and the recent blow off had been a  result of the short covering.
 
Finally all these stories are not confirmed and have originated from the market place.
 
On May 24th 2007 I had inidcated about the meeting (which Devesh also suggested) here.
 
I was also informed about the purani dushmani between India's best investor and India's richest family but would reserve that information because it is not substantiated.
 
 
 
 
 
 
What is agenda of that meeting if they have purani dushmani(settlement of Short?)? Why should there be dushmani btn RJ and business family? Why Junior Ambani would sugget $/Rs rate, Forex etc. Isn't that open secret?
 
If can not post here, can Basant or anybody PM me? I am curious.
 
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 10/Nov/2007 at 9:29pm
MARKET RUMOUR - In 2002 some investor was funded to the extent of Rs 500 crores from one of India's business family. people speculate that the idea was to support the shares that this family was interested in which finally did not materialise and they called back their money.
 
The leveraged investor in bid to pay off had to sell NIIT and a host of other stocks. NIIT I think fell about 17% that day.Later SEBI initiated proceedings for market manipulationa nd the investor was let off for lack of any evidence of manipulative bear hammering.
 
 
Anil Amani also made a presentation to CLSA in September highlighting the companies under his fold. I have a copy of that presentation.
 
Post the presentation ADAG group shares were on fire.
 
 


Edited by basant - 10/Nov/2007 at 9:39pm
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