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Quote vivekkumar_in Replybullet Posted: 30/Sep/2007 at 10:22am
Basantji,
    You have upped yourselves once again by self-doubting yourselves. Very constructive thing and hard to do for many ppl. Appreciate you for that !

Media seems to be on a consolidation mode for now. As we know the basis why we were interested in Media were
- Ad spend as a % of GDP still low
- Leaders in Media take home everything
- Mandatory CAS will swell the bottom line of the companies

Without Mandatory CAS we still believed TV18 could do a 40-45% EPS growth if I am not wrong . While gestation of some of the new business may affect the EPS for couple quarters.  Which is still not too bad.

But the Mandatory CAS is actually the real thing that could convert this from a compounder to a multi-bagger.

From the recent posts that you are not as bullish on Media, may be because you have some strong feeling that mandatory CAS may not come thru as early as 2009 or so.. More because of political uncertainty and stuff etc.. Is that somewhat right ?
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Quote psimajin Replybullet Posted: 30/Sep/2007 at 10:23am
 Geodesic price is Ex-bonus now. That should be adjusted accordingly
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 30/Sep/2007 at 10:48am
Originally posted by vivekkumar_in

Basantji,
    You have upped yourselves once again by self-doubting yourselves. Very constructive thing and hard to do for many ppl. Appreciate you for that !

Media seems to be on a consolidation mode for now. As we know the basis why we were interested in Media were
- Ad spend as a % of GDP still low
- Leaders in Media take home everything
- Mandatory CAS will swell the bottom line of the companies

Without Mandatory CAS we still believed TV18 could do a 40-45% EPS growth if I am not wrong . While gestation of some of the new business may affect the EPS for couple quarters.  Which is still not too bad.

But the Mandatory CAS is actually the real thing that could convert this from a compounder to a multi-bagger.

From the recent posts that you are not as bullish on Media, may be because you have some strong feeling that mandatory CAS may not come thru as early as 2009 or so.. More because of political uncertainty and stuff etc.. Is that somewhat right ?
 
Thanks. Let me explain my thoughts. While it is true that I have become less bullish on media the point is that it takes a significant chunk of my portfolio even as on date. I have just trimmed down the holdings not exited completely which is normally my strategy whenever I exit a stock or a sector. That is so because I feel that by selling in part an investor is taking two simmulteneous calls Bullish on the part retained and bearish on the part sold!
 
Or he accepts that he does not know and sells off apart of it. In this case the lack of clarity on mandatory CAS was one of the strongest reasons for the sell.Without mandatory CAS the media stocks will lack the punch that can make a 5 bagger out of them in 3 years.
 
Surely they are great compounders but when it comes to compounding there is no better stock in India as HDFc bank . A safe steady bet which would fall less in case of a market decline and recover with time not with the market.
 
So while Tv18 continues to be a great play on the Indian internet and financial space I personally think that the time to temper down the expectations was there.
 
Also unlike many of you I had close to half of my portfolio in the Raghav bahl companies with a big bias towards Tv18 so I had to take something off the table.
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Quote deveshkayal Replybullet Posted: 01/Oct/2007 at 1:21pm
Moser Baer's Bonus ratio was 1:2. So the initiation price on TED comes to 220.
 
Great suggestion by Vipulji. Also, i think Educomp should be out of Emerging mid-cap thread as investors cannot buy a stock whose management is pathetic or i might say corporate governance is a serious issue.
 
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 01/Oct/2007 at 2:04pm
Yes, this quarter we will move Educomp out from emerging companies.I was thinking about that and it remains more as a historic symbol of success rather then an opportunity and markets as we know are never affected by history!
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 01/Oct/2007 at 3:42pm
LMW is under 'Emerging Companies' sub-forum but is missing from this list.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 01/Oct/2007 at 4:00pm
To many mistakes in this quarter. Will need to be more careful.Would update that.
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 01/Oct/2007 at 4:02pm

Outsource it to me and I will take care of it.

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