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Quote Mr. V Replybullet Posted: 16/May/2007 at 11:45pm
IGL at current valuations is ideal for a portfolio that is looking for protection incase of market crashes. The downside risk is negligible and the upside potential is quite good over the next 3 years.
 
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1. Increased conversion of private cars (about 2500 cars per month). The total number of CNG vehicles in 2006 stood at 106k. The private car segment will increase it by another 50-60k vehicles.
2. Commonwealth games in 2010
3. Increased penetration of PNG over the next 2-3 years.
4. Expansion into Noida & Faridabad in the next couple of years and Panipat & Sonepat after 2009-10.
5. Railways using CNG for their locomotives (distant future).
6. Zero debt company and all expansions are being funded through internal accruals. Despite being a high Capex business it has no interest rate risk and equity dilution possibilities.
 
I think the company can very easily grow at a rate of 25% till 2010. My only concern would be the crowding of CNG pumps. I remember there used to be huge lines when CNG was initially introduced in Delhi. How is the scene these days ? Are there sufficient number of pumps to handle the increasing conversions ?
 
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Quote kaushalchawla Replybullet Posted: 16/May/2007 at 1:01am
I have a silly question.
 
FY 2006
PBT: 160.12 
TAX: 57.09 
Tax / PBT = 35% approx and almost on the similar lines for this year as well. I checked Reliance etc. They are not paying this high a tax (ratio).....what is special about Indraprastha gas?
 
Why does this ratio varies from company to company?


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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 16/May/2007 at 7:21am
Interesting question really.Reliance has always got its expansion plans tied up and charges depreciation to take tax benefits the rates of depreciation vary from what the companies act prescribes and what the income tax act indicates.
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Quote kanagala Replybullet Posted: 16/May/2007 at 8:47am
City gas distribution sector is poised to grow. But IGL role is limited to NCR region. GAIL started forging different JV'S in each region.
Reliance might enter into this by covering most of the geographic locations. The are sitting large gas reserves and there is no supply side concerns.

Have you looked at Gujarat gas?
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 16/May/2007 at 10:06am
Gujarat Gas is the subsidiary of British Gas and is excellently managed shows consistent growth with good return ratios. Not sure on the valuation part currently becausde I haven't looked at it for a while.
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Quote psimajin Replybullet Posted: 16/May/2007 at 10:23am
Gas distribution has to be through REL/RNRL as per agreement between Ambani Brothers

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Quote jstk Replybullet Posted: 16/May/2007 at 11:42am
 I  feel the thing to keep eye on will be the PNG ( home cooking gas ) users.
 
IGL currently has 65k PNG users in Delhi. As per them, even a 1% shift from LPG to PNG y-o-y can add 30k new users.
 
I have seen one of my relatives using residential water Geysers recently. He was very happy that he made the shift and told me that this works very efficiently on PNG and result in cost savings of nearly 100% .
 
It is expected that more and more high consumption appliances could work on PNG instead of electricity in the future.
 
If this happens, PNG will subsitute electricity in home appliances and this can throw up lots of possibilities.
 
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Quote pramodjain Replybullet Posted: 16/May/2007 at 11:46am

What is the source of this information ???????????????

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