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Posted: 14/Mar/2013 at 11:27am |
I have been following Sun Pharma for the last 5-6 years. More closely in the last year. It is a great company to own. Very conservative management. Also very honest management.
Global companies to compare it to are Mylan, Teva, Actavis(formerly Watson), Perrigo, Sandoz which is the generic division of Novartis.
EV / EBIDTA of the global companies are typically around 10-15. Sun Pharma's EV / EBIDTA is around 15. Acquisations happen in the ev / ebidta of 18 - 20 range.
Sun is better positioned than a lot of the global peers becuase of lower cost structure, exposure to emerging markets, high growth niche markets, etc.
For established innovative drug companies in the US growth is stalling and they and seeing how profitable generics business is(in the US and also the rise of the emerging markets) and most now have a generics division.
Sun has no debt and a ton of cash(6500 crore and rising by 800-1000 crore every quarter) plus around 2000 crore with subsidery - Taro(rising by around 400-500 crore a quarter). Management is very conservative and is looking for acquisations.
In my view pharma sector is the sector to be in over the next 4-5 years. There are multiple trends going for Sun - emerging markets consumption with rising incomes(FMCG like), cost savings because of recession in the developed markets, regulatory mid competition environment, etc.
I expect revenues and ebidta to rise 20-30% annually for the next 4-5 years. Share price growth will be slightly lower because multiples will be compressed as market-cap increases.
All this is based on my pea-siZed brain. Can folks more experienced with stocks comment more on Sun Pharma?
Edited by adad - 14/Mar/2013 at 11:33am
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Posted: 15/Mar/2013 at 7:20pm |
My relative who is a doctor speaks highly of this company.
What is interesting to note is that there is a huge gap in market cap. All the nearest peers have more revenue than Sun. ( The margin is very high Sun). Market cap in crore
Sun Pharma.Inds. 85,955
Cipla 30,940
Dr Reddy`s Labs 30,866
Lupin 26,837
Wockhardt 21,902
Ranbaxy Labs. 18,303
Glaxosmit Pharma 17,986
Cadila Health. 15,435
Divi`s Lab. 13,625
Glenmark Pharma. 13,477
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Posted: 17/Mar/2013 at 2:42pm |
My all time favooo stock ..
Seems no on e is closely tracking this one .
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A monthly investment of Rs 500 (Rs 17 per day) for 30 years @21%CAGR can create a wealth of Rs 1.5 crores. !!!
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Posted: 19/Mar/2013 at 1:16pm |
Marketcapwise it is huge. On other parameters like ev/ebidta it is resonable.
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Posted: 19/Mar/2013 at 1:29pm |
I wanted to re-emphasize multiple factors going for it: Taro price increases from Jan onwards(as per Credit Suisse), Domestic Market returning to normal, URL/DUSA acquisation, any possibly quaterly regular growth, Doxil approval and good rupee/dollar rate.
There is a possible downside that the high profit margin might be difficult to maintain.
Long term growth should be good. The US Patent cliff continues till 2018 albeit at a slower pace, India and Emerging markets are growing at a good pace.
Edited by adad - 19/Mar/2013 at 1:34pm
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Posted: 20/Mar/2013 at 7:53pm |
Originally posted by tejas.k
My relative who is a doctor speaks highly of this company.
What is interesting to note is that there is a huge gap in market cap. All the nearest peers have more revenue than Sun. ( The margin is very high Sun). Market cap in crore
Sun Pharma.Inds. 85,955
Cipla 30,940
Dr Reddy`s Labs 30,866
Lupin 26,837
Wockhardt 21,902
Ranbaxy Labs. 18,303
Glaxosmit Pharma 17,986
Cadila Health. 15,435
Divi`s Lab. 13,625
Glenmark Pharma. 13,477
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Hey Tejas, On this point I think you considered standalone revenues only.
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Posted: 20/Mar/2013 at 10:08am |
I don't know much about most pharma stocks but i follow Sun(and Lupin to a lower degree).
One thing to consider is Sun is cash rich compared to companies with debt - around 6500 crores on it's books(plus another 400 million plus on Taro) - EV and EV/EBIDTA might probably be a better comparator.
Sun does have signficantly high profitibility compared to it's competitors. This has always been the case since i have followed it.
Current price seems a bit high. You might want to wait a bit for a correction if initiating a new position.
Edited by adad - 20/Mar/2013 at 11:37am
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Posted: 07/Jun/2014 at 4:29am |
Even after the recent 6 month sideways movement still think Sun Pharma should ccupy the defensive portion of your portfolio. The ranbaxy acquisation should help them diversify more into India/Other emerging markets as well as diversify into new product categories. Valuations will be less stretched. In 1-2 years it would be a very stable defensive company which will grow 10-20% a year consistantly. Not multi-bagger material(but then which company above a 100k crore market-cap is?) but stable consistant growth.
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