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Quote manish962 Replybullet Posted: 27/Jun/2011 at 5:32pm
You can invest in FMPs of 1year horizon having 9.5 to 9.6% yield. 
 
Or invest in Short term FMPs of 3months horizon yielding 9 to 9.2% and once the interest cycle peaks out(3 to 6months time), you can invest in G-sec funds/Income funds.  
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Quote kumardiwesh Replybullet Posted: 27/Jun/2011 at 8:07pm
How to invest in G-secs?
Do I do that through gilt funds?
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 27/Jun/2011 at 10:36pm
Yessir. Through gilt funds.
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Quote Monkey Replybullet Posted: 28/Jun/2011 at 12:09pm
 
One interesting variant is "P/E ratio fund" offered by Franklin Templeton. This fund adjusts equity & debt allocation based on P/E ratio of Nifty. With increasing P/E ratio of Nifty, equity allocation decreases and debt allocation increases and vice versa. In theory, this ensures automatic rebalancing plus it is tax efficient as well. I am not sure how well it works practically. I have not tried it. If anyone on forum has experience on this fund, pelase do share.
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 28/Jun/2011 at 12:21pm
If managed well, those P/E ratio funds should offer good risk adjusted returns. But they don't seem to be doing that

Tata Equity PE fund, for example, has returned 24% CAGR in the past 7 years. However, its NAV has been as volatile as any other plain vanilla equity MF.

Those seeking a smoother ride should opt for HDFC Balanced fund. It has been around for 17 years now and has offered 21% CAGR.

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Quote kumardiwesh Replybullet Posted: 28/Jun/2011 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by smartcat

Yessir. Through gilt funds.


Thanks a lot for the info.
How do I calculate returns for a certain movement in interest rates?
Is there any way to figure out how much I would earn from investing in G-secs if interest rates go down by, let's say, 100 bps?
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Quote nikrod12 Replybullet Posted: 28/Jun/2011 at 2:32pm
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How do I calculate returns for a certain movement in interest rates?
Is there any way to figure out how much I would earn from investing in G-secs if interest rates go down by, let's say, 100 bps?
 
 
I don't have a quick formula for calculating this. You'll have to search that on web. But I'll explain it with a quick example.
 
 
Assume a bond with face value of 1000 and interest rate of 10%. That means bond pays 100 Rs. every year as interest. Let's also assume that current inerest rates are 10%. So bond will trade for Rs. 1000.
 
 
Now if interest rates move to 9%, you will get that return from all simillar bonds. Hence market adjusts bond price to match the interest with yield. Since our bond is paying 100 Rs. a year, which should now be 9%, the market price will move to 100 * (100/9) = 1111
 
 
On the other hand if interest rates move up to 11%, bond value would be 100 * (100/11) = 909
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Quote manish962 Replybullet Posted: 28/Jun/2011 at 3:14pm
Originally posted by smartcat

If managed well, those P/E ratio funds should offer good risk adjusted returns. But they don't seem to be doing that

Tata Equity PE fund, for example, has returned 24% CAGR in the past 7 years. However, its NAV has been as volatile as any other plain vanilla equity MF.

Those seeking a smoother ride should opt for HDFC Balanced fund. It has been around for 17 years now and has offered 21% CAGR.

I would prefer HDFC Prudence to HDFC Balanced fund as Prudence fund has larger AUM (6200 Cr.) and the returns are higher than that of Balanced fund. Also Prudence fund is since 1994 and is well managed by Mr. Prashant Jain.
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