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Quote heponly Replybullet Posted: 23/Nov/2006 at 11:25am
Yes Certainly specialty chemicals is going to be a big thing. Crude prices dosen't affect much to the bottomline of these companies. The base oil affects its prices. I think now the rate is 800-830$.It might come down to 700-750$ as per Savita chemicals CEO speak.
Apart from Panama petro, Savita chemicals & Apar Industires are into this business. HDFC owns a substanial stake in Savita.Many funds own Apar also.
RJ taken stake in Panama,definitely there must be something big in it.The PE ratios & equity now make it a safe bet.
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Quote Mohan Replybullet Posted: 16/Feb/2007 at 9:41pm
Savita and Panama are in similar line of Business.
Panama is putting up a new plant in Himachal Pradesh.
RJ has stake in Panama. The Petronas deal will give a big boost to topline and bottomline as already reflected in Dec Quarter results.
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Quote us121 Replybullet Posted: 16/Feb/2007 at 11:19pm
i made a small purchase in Panama about 2 months back.
i did it based on some statistics which were presented in Ramesh Damani's chat and sort of his so called positive comment (not verys strong though).
ofcourse, prior to that i studied what ever i could do from web which has been already presented here in this thread.
i am also awaiting for some new news before moving further on this company.
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Quote Mohan Replybullet Posted: 16/Feb/2007 at 11:36pm

I believe RD is following the company too.

RD and RJ are close. Rd likes midcaps and this one is still a microcap.
 
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Quote excel_monkey Replybullet Posted: 29/Dec/2010 at 3:44am
at a P/E of 5
valuations are mouthwatering
ROE at 30% + is sexy
profit growth at 5 year 29% CAGR is exciting

the question is the business sustainable and exciting as well

any TEDies following this company?
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Quote iaditya Replybullet Posted: 29/Dec/2010 at 9:45am
rj has exited this counter a while back.
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Quote Market Maniac Replybullet Posted: 09/Feb/2011 at 1:14am
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Panama Merged a promoter group co. named Mobil Petro with itself in FY09 resulting in dilution of 22%.

Now this merger added 20Cr to the networth of Panama.

There is also an addition of 20Cr to the Gross Block of Buildings.

Moreover this building of Mobil Petro was revalued so as to arrive at 20Cr.

Mobil Petro Pvt. Ltd. was into Petrochemical Trading.

Panama's Sales of Traded goods increased by only 4Cr in FY09 yoy.

Clearly the merger was done to enhance the promoter shareholding from 38% to 55%

Monaco Petro another promoter co. is next in line for merger.

The previous annual reports don't show any significant related party transactions with Mobil Petro & Monaco Petro so synergy is not the rationale of the merger.    

I think they will only stop when their holding reaches 75% which is the maximum permissible limit.

Although Valuations are cheap and I have been told that the co. might do Sales of 500Cr. in FY11 & 1000Cr. in FY12, No margin of safety is high enought without management integrity.
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