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Quote prabhakarkudva Replybullet Posted: 23/Jun/2010 at 3:56pm
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Take your chances and keep them in a box until a quieter time.
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Quote prabhakarkudva Replybullet Posted: 23/Jun/2010 at 4:09pm
Have a look at this-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tea_consumption_per_capita

Demand should remain constant or at best grow at single digit rates.

My sense is that in any commodity company we ought to be playing a demand-supply mismatch.I dont think this is a long term secular growth kind of a  story, unless they strengthen existing brands and show some pricing power.


Take your chances and keep them in a box until a quieter time.
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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 23/Jun/2010 at 5:07pm
I see......Thanks a lot.
 
But don't you think playing a supply demand mismatch (as opposed to a secular trend) will be extremely difficult for non experts in this area.
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Quote prabhakarkudva Replybullet Posted: 23/Jun/2010 at 5:55pm
Yes and although it might not be the best attitude that is precisely why i am staying away
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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 23/Jun/2010 at 5:56pm
Same here...unable to get fully convinced without finding out very compelling stats...... Still looking at a leisurely pace....
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Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 23/Jun/2010 at 6:08pm
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Yes and although it might not be the best attitude that is precisely why i am staying away


Another factor which needs to be considered while investing here is that while production shortfall may cause rise in prices, the reduced production may dent the sales of the company. And if some kind of pest plays havoc, one never knows how much damage it can cause.
Stockmarket is a weird place. For every person who buys a stock there is a person who sells it and both think they are very smart.
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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 23/Jun/2010 at 7:46pm
Yeah...was planning to read data about this company and some competitors to see if any of these things happen.
 
Hitesh, do you have any idea if these events are real possibilities?
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 23/Jun/2010 at 7:53pm
In a country like ours, nothing stays in demand-supply match for long....so I guess we cannot ever think long-term thinking along those lines 'alone'.
 
The stocks which will give you the most incredible returns will be the ones who you discover cheap and who has a feature of regular consumption( that may or may not grow, but most importantly, it shouldnt decline). Now, to obtain great returns, we not have to only meet the second condition, but we have to meet the first condition as well.
 
I think the concern talked about by Hit makes a great sense. We have to concerned about standalone garden companies and focus on companies which have a wider geographical plantation base.
 
Just think about it.....at a time when we are paying 5-10 times turnover for FMCG companies, we are not paying one time turnover for Goodricke. What we are ignoring is that the balance sheet is in the best shape in the last 10 years.....Just think, we are paying for consumer companies in big big multiples to their book values, we are trying to get them at sub-2 p.c. dividend yield then why not consider stocks which hav the feature of regular consumption of their finished goods, but not perceived as fast moving available at pretty decent fundamentals.
 
Consumer companies can also be rank under-performers.....there's no consumer company in India having a bigger basket of brands than HUL. But track its performance over the last 10 years.
 
What looks great at the moment may turn out to be pretty dud. Nothing is predictable beyond a point....we cannot figure out competition with accuracy, we cannot figure about demographics with accuracy, we cannot figure about technological change with accuracy. Nothing in stock markets remain hot for ever, and nothing remains cold for ever. What you try to do is avoid getting into the hottest stocks ready to be placed into the refrigerator and not avoiding the coldest stocks just placed on the burner.
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