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    Posted: 26/Sep/2006 at 10:28pm
For quite sometime I have been watching this scrip. It is essentially in  one of the most active sectors,viz., construction and to be precise, its manufacturing cement products. The capital is about 7.5 crores and the book value of the share now is about Rs.170/-. Its EPS for the full last year was Rs.52/- and the latest quarter EPS was Rs.13/- A consistent performer. While the others like Indian Hume Pipe and Sanghi are at a much lower EPS, their PEs are at 13 and 12 as against HYd Inds' PE of 6 only. Recently the company took over Malabaroducts to synergise the activities. Its quoting lessthan 50% of its year high. Will someone be able to tell what is the problem with this scrip?
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Quote India_Bull Replybullet Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 9:37pm
I have lost patience and sold it off today ...
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 06/Nov/2006 at 10:08pm
I think that the management is a suspect - CK Birla if I am not mistaken these management create market cap in bull markets only. Other companies under the same management is Orient paper and hindustan Motors.
 
A very close friend of mine and a frequent visitor to this website does a lot of contract work for orient paper and he says that in the last land deal effected at Orient everything was not done as per shareholder's interests - make what you may out of this.
 
The stock price does not seem to be bothered though as it has been a 15 bagger in this bull run.
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 12/Oct/2009 at 9:51pm
The kind of performance it has displayed in bad times, doesnt seem to suggest that management is a suspect. Price movement is one thing, but financial performance has been exemplary.
 
What gives more weightage to the performance is that they are sharing the 'beans'.
 
When it comes to business, if mass housing and LIG MIG housing develops in a significant manner, this company would be a big beneficiary.
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Quote samirarora Replybullet Posted: 15/Oct/2009 at 7:34pm
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Originally posted by vishmitt

Vivek,
 
whats your opinion on Hyderabad vz. Visaka.
 
Visaka's growth over past 5 years is much better than Hyderabad, while valuation much cheaper.
 
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I havent checked Visaka in details. Just that, I am more comfortable with a CK Birla company.
 
 
Its interesting, that visaka was mentioned just yesterday and it was being recommended on CNbc today via a Mr. Ashish Chugh.... said visaka is great.... the stock went one upper circuit freeze after the recommendation..
 
I personally have gone in for Hyderabad Industries.....
If Vivekji has passed it... i guess it must be better!!!!
 
 
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 15/Oct/2009 at 1:00am
The really long term business prospects of Hyd Ind and Visaka is suspect - because of the usage of asbestos.
 
Asbestos usage is banned in most developed countries because of health risks. Visaka's website mentions this though -
 
Asbestos Cement products present no known risk to health as they contain only a small percentage of asbestos firmly 'Locked in' with cement during manufacture. Follow recommended work pratices during installation to avoid emission of dust. Inhaling of asbestos dust in excessive amounts over a prolonged period can be injurious to health.
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Quote vishmitt Replybullet Posted: 15/Oct/2009 at 2:29am
I have been holding Visaka for more than a year @45, and don't go by CNBC!
 
IMO, Visaka is far better than Hyd or other companies in the industry.
- It used to be smallest of the 4 main listed companies 4 year ago, and now is No 2, and can be ahead of Hyd in 2 years time.
- Its ROE is less than Hyd right now, but with increasing cash flow, and paring down of debt, I expect this to improve.
- Capital allocation wise too, I find it better than Hyd and Ramco.
- Looking at the dividend history, details in annual report, and my interaction with the mgmt, I find Visaka to be investor friendly.
- Generally, I would avoid C K Birla companies from competence point of view.
 
Also, the valuation in terms of P/B - Visaka is 1, Hyd is 1.7. Div Yield - Visaka 3.2, Hyd 2.4.
 
Visaka also has a small textile business, which is also doing very well. 
 


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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 15/Oct/2009 at 7:46am
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The really long term business prospects of Hyd Ind and Visaka is suspect - because of the usage of asbestos.
 
Asbestos usage is banned in most developed countries because of health risks. ....



I remember asking about this elsewhere. Of course, we Indians are "different" and so asbestos is still popular. Just wait till some phirang decides to sue. Strangely, Greenpyss is silent on this matter. Maybe, they're more occupied with opposing GM brinjal currently.
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