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    Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 1:34am

A Market Entry Exit Strategy |

Statistically informed look at Nifty valuation levels

29 Sep 2009

Market Entry Exit Signals? The CNX Nifty is today trading at a PE of 22.55.

Many senior investors I speak to, have started getting cautious. They are cutting their exposures and not making fresh entries. While there may still be some stock-specific value left, valuations are rich in many frontliners.

With the FIIs continuing to pour in money, there is also talk of whether the market can touch new highs! With increasing inflows, the FIIs also reckon if the Indian currency were to appreciate to Rs. 40 to a dollar from current levels, even if that were to take 1-2 years, that's a straight 20% gain on the currency! As the Raring Bull is fond of saying, who's to argue with what valuation is right for the Indian market?

Having learnt my lessons in 2007 & 2008 (I remained invested throughout and did not book even partial profits), I am now in search of some kind of market entry exit decision-making models for myself. A senior prompted me to look at long-term historical Nifty Valuation data. He suggested a statistically informed look at valuations can introduce some predictability to investment returns!




Between January 1999 and September 2009, the Nifty traded at low PEs of below 11 and high PEs of 28+. It hit those extreme valuations rarely. The average PE was 17.72 while the median was 17.58 and the modal value was 14.31. The standard deviation was 3.64

The Median indicated that exactly half the time, the Nifty traded below 17.58. And the Mode shows it most commonly traded between 14-15. Most of us are aware of this on an intuitive basis, even if we may not have it on our fingertips.




Let's first check whether the 10yr CNX Nifty data above holds a normal distribution pattern. The laws of normal distribution suggest valuations between 14-21 (within one standard deviation of the average) around 68 per cent of the time and valuations between 10-25 (within two SDs) around 95 per cent of the time. The actual stats are 67 percent and 95.6 percent respectively, so the reality is very close to what is expected of normally distributed Nifty PE data.

Now this is a good Bell Curve. If we look at the Nifty PE distribution data/graph above, we can see that the market is at an unusual valuation, when outside Mean+/- 1SD. And it is at an extraordinary valuation, when outside Mean+/- 2SDs.

We are always told by seniors to look for PEs lower than the long-term average, as a buying signal. Similarly higher than long-term average PEs, would signify a sell signal, right? My market entry exit model, is now refined by the laws of normal distribution! It looks something like the following:

a. At the higher end of the 14-21 scale, start cutting exposure; book partial profits
b. When it starts creeping up over 23, start selling
c. If I am still around & milking, and it goes beyond 25, exit most; make portfolio zero cost
d. At 13 or below, start buying & heavily

In October 1999, the Nifty was at PE 23 – a strong sell signal. In May 2004, it was at PE 14 – a good buy signal. Mar 2009, the NIfty PE went to being just over 12, but that wasn't as strong a signal as October 2008, when PE went below 11. It is currently (Sep 2009) at PE 22.55 - a time to get cautious again, signal!

I am convinced by the senior's suggestion of using the long-term historical Nifty PEs as a guide for my market entry exit strategy. Executing that is another matter though, and will take loads of discipline. Do I have it in me? I am asking myself this, daily:). It might interest you to know that the Franklin Dynamic PE fund follows a similar market entry exit strategy.

If I am able to shut out conflicting emotions and decide to act rigidly on the sell-heavily signals, it probably would also mean forgoing extraordinary returns at peaks. The CNX Nifty peaked in February 2000 at 1800 levels and at PEs of 27+. It peaked again in January 2008 at 6200 level, and at PEs of 28+!

However the discipline to forgo the cream, might also mean tremendous capital safety for me. I would not again be caught in a situation of hopelessly remaining fully-invested; worse still - be unable to bet decisively, & heavily on the very stong buy signals in Oct 2008 and Mar 2009, because all my funds were tied-up in buy-and-hold!

Happy Investing! And love to discuss and refine this further, with help from Seniors!

Rgds,
Donald

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Quote prabhakarkudva Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 1:47am
Donald,

While its good to keep an eye on the price expansion,we also need to consider where we currently stand in terms on earnings expansion.The current PE may be high but the possibility of an earnings improvement is much higher today than was at the peak of the cycle.We had a surge in earnings and hence a surge in price,then the big fall in price,then the fall in earnings.Now we are again in a phase where our earnings will start expanding,that should take care of the high PE.
Take your chances and keep them in a box until a quieter time.
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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 7:53am
Donald, good to see a discussion of this topic.

Some points, if you don't mind.

1. Change the formatting so we don't have to scroll.

2. How often is E changed in the PE ratio? Is it, for example, revised 30 days after the end of each calendar quarter? Or is it changed as and when a Nifty company declares quarterly results?
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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 8:01am
Originally posted by Hitesh Shah

Originally posted by DFrancis

..... It might interest you to know that the Franklin Dynamic PE fund follows a similar market entry exit strategy....


There is a review of this fund in the Nifty PE context here - Mastering money making.


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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 8:08am
The Median indicated that exactly half the time, the Nifty traded below 17.58. And the Mode shows it most commonly traded between 14-15. Most of us are aware of this on an intuitive basis, even if we may not have it on our fingertips.


Donald, is it possible for you to repost the Nifty PE distribution with more detail for the Y-axis (PE) so that the values / bands indicated in the quote are indicated across the chart by nice dotted lines or shading?

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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 9:04am
Hi Donald,
 
Very interesting article. Thanks for taking the pain and coming up with original content.
 
Prof Bakshi also reached somewhat similar conclusion sometime back here 
 
Do check out his nifty pe to 3 year return correlation.
 
It will be very interesting to see if, like last time all stocks correct should we have a market meltdown.
 
 


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Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 10:11am
Great Article.

The only fly in the ointment in following this strategy is many a times you miss out the blow out phase which comes at the fag end of a bull market when cats and dogs start flying and some stocks in your portfolio reach dizzying heights.

But for me discretion is the better part of valour and I would most certainly like to miss these gains if the choice were to preserve my capital.

I feel current rally is a corrective rally because even at this level there is no blowout phase like behaviour, which matches buying panic.
Stockmarket is a weird place. For every person who buys a stock there is a person who sells it and both think they are very smart.
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 30/Sep/2009 at 1:22pm

The mean, median, mode, std deviation stuff is a bit dizzying. The high PE/low PE bit I understand though!

It would be interesting to see the Nifty PE Distribution Chart against the normal Nifty price chart between 1999 and 2009 - to see the correlation between P/E rise and Nifty fall (and vice versa).
 
a. At the higher end of the 14-21 scale, start cutting exposure; book partial profits
b. When it starts creeping up over 23, start selling
c. If I am still around & milking, and it goes beyond 25, exit most; make portfolio zero cost
d. At 13 or below, start buying & heavily
 
This strategy needs some fine-tuning. Because the number of high P/E and low P/E sessions are less, selling off big chunks of the portfolio and buying big chunks might be a better idea, rather than take the creeping route.
 
 
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