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Quote EquityInv Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 10:46pm
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Did anybody followed this strategy of "Holding Cash Equivalents" and converted it into big opportunities while market was all time low? If so, can you please share your experience with it.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 11:09pm
I know of several people who converted their equities into cash equivalents when markets were high but could not deploy them at the lows or even higher then from what they had converted.Ouch

This was a great lesson to the timers and reinforces the concept that it is the time in the market and not the timing that will make money.


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Hi All,

Did anybody followed this strategy of "Holding Cash Equivalents" and converted it into big opportunities while market was all time low? If so, can you please share your experience with it.
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I guess it is better to ride the roller coaster than to stand by and watch it.
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Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 12:09pm
Originally posted by EquityInv

Hi All,

Did anybody followed this strategy of "Holding Cash Equivalents" and converted it into big opportunities while market was all time low? If so, can you please share your experience with it.


I had the problem of being fully invested when the market fell and I had my holding in PARAL,LEAF AND TTK PRESTIGE and still I wanted to buy IVRCL at around 60 and I had no more funds and did not have the guts to part with my holdings. No regrets though. All my holdings delivered albeit to a lesser extent.

But the lesson I learnt was always to keep 10-20% for that rainy day and if that money does not earn money for me it is okay by me.

At the current market PE of around 22 I have started feeling a bit uncomfortable, although my stocks do not have such high PEs, but still when the market corrects, it tends to beat all stocks with the same stick, whether high PE or low PE. It is like power play in cricket, anything goes for a six -- good ball or bad ball. Panic knows no reason.
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Quote EquityInv Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 12:49pm
Originally posted by basant

I know of several people who converted their equities into cash equivalents when markets were high but could not deploy them at the lows or even higher then from what they had converted.Ouch

This was a great lesson to the timers and reinforces the concept that it is the time in the market and not the timing that will make money.


Originally posted by EquityInv

Hi All,

Did anybody followed this strategy of "Holding Cash Equivalents" and converted it into big opportunities while market was all time low? If so, can you please share your experience with it.


Basantjee,

But big bucks are always made when there's blood in market. so if we remain fully invested in equities all time, how can we trap that opportunies? [while market is in panic]. Specifically in panic situation individual portfolio itself shows horrible and hence people would rarely have guts to put new money [borrowed money or their savings] at that time.


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Quote EquityInv Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 12:52pm
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Originally posted by EquityInv

Hi All,

Did anybody followed this strategy of "Holding Cash Equivalents" and converted it into big opportunities while market was all time low? If so, can you please share your experience with it.


I had the problem of being fully invested when the market fell and I had my holding in PARAL,LEAF AND TTK PRESTIGE and still I wanted to buy IVRCL at around 60 and I had no more funds and did not have the guts to part with my holdings. No regrets though. All my holdings delivered albeit to a lesser extent.

But the lesson I learnt was always to keep 10-20% for that rainy day and if that money does not earn money for me it is okay by me.

At the current market PE of around 22 I have started feeling a bit uncomfortable, although my stocks do not have such high PEs, but still when the market corrects, it tends to beat all stocks with the same stick, whether high PE or low PE. It is like power play in cricket, anything goes for a six -- good ball or bad ball. Panic knows no reason.


Hitbhai..

Yes, I too feel that we should keep some % for that rainy days.. Even though it doesn't earn money but while market is in excess panic mode, this money literally pays full time... question is that will anybody be able to invest that 20% of cash in panic mode or it will just remain as cash for ever ? [as Basantjee gave example]
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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 9:54am
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But the lesson I learnt was always to keep 10-20% for that rainy day and if that money does not earn money for me it is okay by me.
 
Hi Hit,
 
I am very very interested in this strategy.
 
Is there a way to buy bonds with this "spare" money in the Indian context?
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Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 10:25am
Regarding the bonds, yes they are listed on NSE and one can buy just like buying shares. I know of bonds of Sriram Transport and Tata Motors which are listed and are traded on NSE.
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