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Quote xbox Replybullet Posted: 10/Apr/2007 at 5:44am

Can't imagine this happening. Indian IT service companies are monsters with heart of pig. I see somebody picking infosys and satyam in next decade.

Don't bet on pig after all bull & bear in circle.
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Quote studentoflife Replybullet Posted: 02/Sep/2009 at 9:39am
Personally I sold of all my shares in TCS in the begining of Feb 2007.
It seemed overvalued.
 
I feel there would a decreased return on Capital employed.
 
But there have been some major contributions to TCS income.A very big chunk of Satyam conracts have shifted to TCS.
 
TCS has beaten Info and Wipro in this game.
But Infosys ROIC is better than TCS.
 
Certainly this downturn will result in changing business models for all US companies. So around 3 yrs down the line TCS ,Infosys,WIPRO will no longer have the model advantage.
 
TCS still does not give a competitive pay packet in India,these US companies do.But the difference is TCS sends more employees onsite to USA to work.They get paid in dollars which compensates for the reduced salary in India.As soon as the project is over they come back to India.The amount of people in bench (without projects) in USA is very less.It may be high in India but they pay in rupees.
 
US companies on the other hand usually have US employees work in their US branches and pay in dollars (higher salary than indian counterparts) and thus resulting in a reduced ROIC.A higher bench payout in dollars is the reason.
Moreover these companies insist on large size deals.
Indian counterparts take even single member projects.
 
This advantage will reduce in the future when they downsize their US workforce and keep more people who are on deputation from low cost countries.
 
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TCS has tried to reduce the cost aggressively for services and at the same time raised the bar in quality as well as delivery deadlines.

It is so normal in USA to find a branded product at different prices at 2 different stores. Indians logically go for lower price items. Underlying assumption is both stores are near to your home in terms of distance.

Software Service also in that respect for an existing technology will have a great pricing competition. For the same quality/technology, the shift is clearly towards lower cost. It is evident in TCS $1 billion deal with one of the top US clients in 2007. TCS billing hour rate was one third to one tenth of the Accenture billing rates.

Also, for maintenance projects one does not need high quality consulting as what Accenture does.

Plus due to high end consulting with high price, the project duration remain shorter. Whereas due to maintenance being bread & butter, companies need this ongoing support and the visibility in revenues remains there due to long term contracts.

With ongoing slowdown, lower pricing with existing customers is a big plus over compnaies like Accenture.

I think Accenture has a good lead on Domain front but that edge can also reduce with time.

TISCO being the lowest cost Steel producer in World can become the largest Steel producer in the world. Walmart is also a price play & is no. 1 in its field.

The above is only one of the perspectives in this thread.

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