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Quote johnnybravo Replybullet Posted: 01/Jun/2007 at 12:52pm
Gold is not bought from an investment attitude or perspective. People buy gold (mostly ornaments) and day by day the design and creativity in jewelery is denting gold's prospects as investment. If it were just investment people wouldn't have bought it on Akshay Tritiya or diwali come what may!

I still know people who regularly buy gold ornaments on these 3/4 days during the year. Thats working out like a SIP investment in gold!
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Quote xbox Replybullet Posted: 02/Jun/2007 at 11:59am
Gold is not bought from an investment attitude or perspective.
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Gold is bought from an investment attitude or perspective.People also buy gold (mostly ornaments) and day by day the design and creativity in jewelery.
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Quote us121 Replybullet Posted: 03/Jun/2007 at 10:08pm
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That money will never come out of gold - till there is one daughter in very household!!!
 
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That's one of the best comment. I liked.
This is called knowing the pulse of India.
ABILITY will get u at d top. CHARACTER will retain u at d top
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Quote omshivaya Replybullet Posted: 17/Jun/2007 at 9:01pm

The 10 Commandments Of Investing

The biblical Ten Commandments were intended to act as a driver's manual for the road of life. "Thou shalt not kill." "Thou shalt not lie." These are life's version of the stop-at-the-red-light-and-advance-when-safe rules of the road. In other words, they are all guidelines to keep people out of trouble. Because life's highways are full of potholes, blind turns and bad drivers, the investing world also suffers from scandals, scams and dishonest companies. Here are 10 commandments for the investing world designed to help keep investors - and their money - safe:

1. Thou shalt set clear goals.
If you don't have a purpose or a set of goals to guide your investment strategy, don't invest. This sounds harsh, but there are so many types, styles and flavors of investing that, without a particular destination, you will be lost at sea.(For more on this, read Investing With A Purpose and Investing 101: A Tutorial For Beginner Investors.)

2. Thou shalt put thy financial house in order.
To become a successful investor, you have to make sure that your personal finances are in order first. Investing without a purpose is bad, but investing when you have high-interest debt is much worse. (This has been explored in greater detail in The Indiana Jones Guide To Getting Ahead and Digging Out Of Personal Debt.) If you are drowning in overdue bills and credit card payments that you can't meet, take care of those more serious problems before getting too deep into investing.

3. Thou shalt question authority.
Investing is more about the art of asking and answering the right questions than it is about deciding when to buy and when to sell. CEOs, CFOs, CPAs, CFAs and all the other acronyms that we use to classify Wall Street's professional caste can't hide the fact that they are human, and that humans sometimes lie. Analysts get kickbacks, CEOs get stock options and recent accounting scandals, such as Arthur Anderson LLP's conduct regarding Enron, show that impartial accounting is not guaranteed.

To question authority, you will need to educate yourself, especially on the subject of financials. Press releases are flakes of snow that rain down on investors and melt away, but financials stick around. Although financials can be tampered with, there is always a trail left behind. (To read more on this subject, see Evaluating Executive Compensation, Lifting The Lid On CEO Compensation and Common Clues Of Financial Statement Manipulation.)

4. Thou shalt not follow sheep.
Herd mentality is leading to more and more destructive rampages down Wall Street. Investing passively by sticking to funds, indexes and other mainstays of the coach potato portfolio is a perfectly acceptable practice. The danger comes when people move from passive investing to an active portfolio, but stick with the behavior of a passive investor. (To keep reading about portfolio management, see How Portfolio Laziness Pays Off, Words From The Wise On Active Management and A Guide To Portfolio Construction.)

There is a lot of available information for such investors - much of which is true - but accepting it with an uncritical eye and neglecting to check it yourself is what leads to herding. This includes getting the latest and greatest stock tip from your Uncle George.

A person can effortlessly become one of the investors that the analysts shepherd into various "must-buy stocks" after they have become overpriced. This is how investors find themselves in the herd when skittish investors flee, causing the stock to plunge farther than it should have (whereupon a more astute investor buys a bargain off your loss).

When people buy cars, they try to find the best value for the lowest price; when people buy stocks, they only see the price and, ironically, gravitate toward rising prices. If you are going to invest, you have to check things for yourself in order to find the true value and get the bargains. This takes more time, and it could even cause you to miss out on early gains, but it will tell you when to stay out or when to sell well before the herd hears the bell. (To read more about investor behavior, see Mad Money ... Mad Market? and The Madness Of Crowds.)

5. Thou shalt be humble.
If you take the first four commandments to heart, there is a good chance that you will perform better than the majority of individual investors and many of the professionals. But sometimes, particularly during a bull market, gains are not dictated by investor actions as much as by having money in the market, so don't allow yourself to become overconfident. Overconfidence often leads to overtrading, taking unnecessary risk and eventual losses when the bull turns bear. Also remember that you incur commissions every time you trade - this expense can often erase profits or increase losses. 

6. Thou shalt be patient.
Patience is a virtue for a good reason: It pays for itself. When the market dips, or even when a particular stock dips, there are always investors who panic and sell. Selling should be treated just as seriously as buying. If it is just a bump, ride it out. If it is truly a problem with the stock, take your time as well - you may find a way to use it in a gain-loss transaction that will save you taxes. By the time you hear it, bad news has already settled in - taking your time isn't going to make it much worse. (To find out more about timing, read Buy, Sell Or Hold?

7. Thou shalt show moderation.
Investing too much is not a problem many people have, but it can happen. It is said that the pain of a loss has twice the emotional strength of the pleasure of a gain. For some people, this results in them pulling out of the market prematurely, as mentioned above.

For others, losing propels them into successively riskier ventures in an all-or-nothing attempt to win those losses back. Losses are hard to take, but look on the bright side: You can sell a loss to offset a gain in another sector or, if it is in a retirement account, you can use it as a tax write-off. Concentrating your money too much in one area, either by sector, risk level, or even keeping it all in the stock market, is a sure way to see more nothing than all in an all-or-nothing game. (Learn how to use your losses to your advantage in The Importance Of A Profit/Loss Plan and Selling Losing Securities For A Tax Advantage.) 

8. Thou shalt not ogle thy investment.
There is nothing like a market correction or a general upswing to change perfectly normal investors into fanatics who have market updates text messaged to their cell phones every five minutes. As with fidelity, the axiom, "look, don't touch" is insufficient because the more you look, the more you want to mess around with your investments. It is not clear if it is a symptom or a cause, but this rabid over-monitoring almost always leads to unnecessary churning in sufferers' portfolios.



9. Thou shalt not court or spurn risk.
You should never put everything you have into futures, but you also shouldn't hold everything in Treasury bills. There is an appropriate level of risk for investors of every age and creed. (To figure out your level of risk, see Determining Risk And The Risk Pyramid.)

10. Thou shalt not make heros of mere men.
There are no perfect investors. Warren Buffett, George Soros and Peter Lynch have all slipped up from time to time. That doesn't stop them from being great investors who are worth studying and learning from. That said, you should never mimic an investing strategy that you do not fully understand. (To find out more about these investors, see Pick Stocks Like Peter Lynch, Warren Buffett: How He Does It and What Is Warren Buffett's Investing Style?)

There is too much guru-ism going on among investors - so much so that credentials are often lost beneath book titles in which the word "rich" is prominently featured. As with the early caution against trusting authority, you have to question everything. Even if a strategy works for a certain period of time, once it becomes widespread, it skews the system. For example, the publication of Lynch's tenbagger strategy has led to too many people searching for those stocks, leading prices to become inflated to adjust for the non-market driven demand. Skeptics survive on Wall Street much longer than believers. (Find more helpful tips from investors in the know in The Greatest Investors and Financial Wisdom From Three Wise Men.)

Conclusion
Praying or getting behind the wheel expecting everyone else to follow the same rules you do are both acts of faith. Investing, in contrast, requires practice. To be a good investor, you have to make doubt a part of your creed and a make of ritual of double-checking. These guidelines should help you on your way. Happy driving.

Source: http://www.investopedia.com
The most important quality for an investor is temperament,not intellect.A temperament that neither derives great pleasure from being with the crowd nor against it
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 17/Jun/2007 at 12:02pm
Om jee seems to be back to his normalcy out of Maunvrat. Thanks for the nice post, anyway.
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Quote aloksahi1971 Replybullet Posted: 24/Aug/2007 at 10:15am
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Basant Sir, Now that your style of investing is long term .Why not real estate .Real estate is one commodity that will always be in short supply. And as a Calcatan what do you say of the Bata Real estate comming up at the kolkata .

 
Over a period of time businesses will outperform real estate. That is because a business man makes rent payments and salaries through which homeloan and property loan etc are serviced so if real estate outperforms businesses then all busineses will collapse bringing down real estate prices with them.
 
Over the short period of time real estate could outperform. Areas within the 5 km radius of sector 5 Salt lake should do very well since Sector 5 is the IT destination at Kolkata. Our house falls in the 5 km space but it does not matter because in any case this hose will never be sold nor do we have the emotional disconnect to sell this house and buy a new one so it does not matter.See this thread How wealth can be created in stocks only!!!
 
 
 
Business growth does come about but the growth may be in different sectors /industries.the benifit of land/building is that it is tangiable asset and appart from cost appreciation it also pays aregular yeild in terms of rent.This depends primarily on the location. Another point to note is that the propety cannot be sold at the tap of a button thus taking hasty and panicky decisions are avoided


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Quote leo2007 Replybullet Posted: 25/Aug/2007 at 4:54pm
What will be the value appreciation for  a building / apartment. If a person buys  an apartment, say for Rs.  60 lakhs , will the value go up 10 % ( 6 lakhs ) every year ? . I doubt.  For a building / apartment we should take into account the depreciation also as the building becomes old. The rental income , is less than the interest on FD. If we buy a house for our residence , it is understandable , since we need a place to stay. Otherwise it is better to invest in equity rather than invesing in  building.
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 25/Aug/2007 at 5:15pm
well, I beleieve plots can be excellent investments at times. however, locating buyers and sellers is a cumbersome process mostly. however, in some cases doubling in 2 years is not uncommon.....
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